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| dkizerian | | Set |  |  | | Reg. Date | : | 22/04/2014 | | Posts | : | 18 | | Location | : | Utah, United States |
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| | Posted : 20 May 2014 - 19:43 Post title : Commander vs. Storm | | | Hi all,
I'm trying to decide between the Storm and the Commander, and want to make sure I'm not missing any major differences, and I'd also welcome any personal opinions as well. Below are pros and cons of each bike:
Storm:
Pros
Detachable sissy bar
Detachable bag brackets
Slightly more power
Seat choices
Cons
Rear fender/plate
Meh
May need to add floorboards
Windshield choices
Self-tunable
Commander
Pros
Looks of the wheels, headlight surround and rear fender
Come with floorboards
I've been told exhaust sounds better, stock
Windshield mounts from Triumph are inconspicuous compared to Storm
Cons
Non-detachable sissy bar
No detachable bag brackets, yet
Non tunable, yet
Meh
Seat is great, IF it works for me
Haven't seen the black and charcoal color
Thanks for any insight you may have!
DK
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| BlueNose | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 29/09/2009 | | Posts | : | 2,478 | | Location | : | United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 20 May 2014 - 20:39 Post title : Re: Commander vs. Storm (Re: dkizerian) | | | Commander
Pros - to add to the list
Tank badge (way better)
Seat (tried it and it is fantastic)
Engine and clutch cover details (significant improvement in my opinion)
Colour options (Black & Charcoal is fab)
Longer wheelbase - more room for lanky gits like me
Cons
Footboards (for me anyway)
Headlight surround (not to my taste but I could live with it)
I have done 25,000 miles on a Storm and it is a mighty impressive bike BUT if I were to choose now it would be the Commander. however it is a choice between a right decision and a right decision just one is lightly more right than the other.
Hope that helps you my friend.
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| mat1600 | | Thunderbird | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 06/03/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,596 | | Location | : | Bridlington, Democratic Independant State of Yorkshire, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 20 May 2014 - 23:39 Post title : Re: Commander vs. Storm (Re: dkizerian) | | | Storm.
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| Dozer | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 20/01/2012 | | Posts | : | 309 | | Location | : | Ballarat, Victoria, Australia |
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| | Posted : 21 May 2014 - 10:44 Post title : Re: Commander vs. Storm (Re: mat1600) | | | Con
The problem with the front guard on the 1600/1700 is fixed on the Commander (Bolts are lower) unable to remove bolts which hold on the front guard when the wheel is installed as i found this out on the last flocking when the bolt head wore into the tyre almost down to the canvas (well spotted Gonzo  may have saved my life and Nicole's life)
Question : did they fix the problem with the heated grip 
| Great Roads, Great People , Lets get Flocking 
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| Dags | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 01/11/2013 | | Posts | : | 468 | | Location | : | N.S.W, Australia |
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| | Posted : 21 May 2014 - 11:32 Post title : Re: Commander vs. Storm (Re: Dozer) | | | Bump
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| Dolphran | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 13/05/2014 | | Posts | : | 8 | | Location | : | Providence, RI, United States |
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| | Posted : 21 May 2014 - 11:57 Post title : Re: Commander vs. Storm (Re: Dags) | | | IMHO the Commander is absolutely beautiful to look at. I like chrome. And Kodachrome (color, not just shades of grey).
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| Terota66 | | Chaac | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 24/11/2013 | | Posts | : | 505 | | Location | : | Nova Scotia, Canada |
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| | Posted : 21 May 2014 - 12:19 Post title : Re: Commander vs. Storm (Re: dkizerian) | | | Storm
| 2013 Thunderbird Storm ABS
HardStreets
LED Headlights
Short Tors & tune
K&N air filter
Mustang Vintage 2 Up Seat
Scorpion Alarm
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| Chet_Manley | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 07/05/2014 | | Posts | : | 18 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 21 May 2014 - 12:39 Post title : Re: Commander vs. Storm (Re: Terota66) | | | Storm. I like the Commander but my long arms couldn't get past the pedal bike beach cruiser handle bars.
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| daz | | Zeus | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,701 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 21 May 2014 - 13:31 Post title : Re: Commander vs. Storm | | | without going into the details, the commander is at the moment at least impossible to mod for power. Mine is a 1700 and with a custom tune and cat removal (actually gutted) the power gains are about what i got going from the 1600 to the 1700 which is considerable. Much more power. But with the commander 2 things will hold you back from doing that. 1-cats are in the headers which may be impossible to remove. And 2- these bikes have the new locking ECU which renders it useless if you play around with mapping via tuneecu, and possibly other methods. The storm has the same cat as mine and if the new storms have that locking ecu you can always buy a older model or used. Of course if more power isn't a concern then no worries with the commander.
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| FilthyPhil | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 08/03/2014 | | Posts | : | 19 | | Location | : | Hunter Valley, Australia |
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| | Posted : 21 May 2014 - 13:33 Post title : Re: Commander vs. Storm (Re: dkizerian) | | | I've already said on the forum somewhere else what I thought of the commanders but I'll say it again.
I really love the look of the Commander & intended on buying one until I took one for a test ride.
I found the riding position to be very uncomfortable. The floorboards are too high compared to the seat & the handlebars come back too far.
I'm 6'1".
I took a Storm for a test ride today & loved the riding position. The only thing I found to complain about was the speedo. The numbers are a bit small on the km/h speedo for my old eyes.
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| dkizerian | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 22/04/2014 | | Posts | : | 18 | | Location | : | Utah, United States |
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| | Posted : 21 May 2014 - 16:34 Post title : Re: Commander vs. Storm (Re: daz) | | | Thanks for the input everyone!
Are the 2014 Storms locked ECUs as well?
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| SpeedShaker | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 15/08/2013 | | Posts | : | 154 | | Location | : | Whittier, CA, United States |
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| | Posted : 21 May 2014 - 16:48 Post title : Re: Commander vs. Storm (Re: dkizerian) | | | Think the 2010-2013 models will be more popular because of the changes?
|  The look when I twist the throttle.
I get when I roll up to a light.
When they debate to race.
 When they see the back of my Triumph shirt, after I leave that red light.
Bikes owned:
2005 Speedmaster
2013 Thunderbird ABS
2013 Victory Cross Country
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| TarmacTeaser | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 05/05/2014 | | Posts | : | 6 | | Location | : | Perth, Western Australia |
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| | Posted : 22 May 2014 - 11:19 Post title : Re: Commander vs. Storm (Re: dkizerian) | | |
dkizerian wrote:
Thanks for the input everyone!
Are the 2014 Storms locked ECUs as well? |
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Short answer is no they aren't locked.
I bought my storm in Dec 2013 and it was sold by the dealer as a 2014 model.
I uploaded mark's seat hack tune today without a problem.
| 2014 Storm, Short Tors, Meerkat crossover, K&n air filter, filter seal removed, Marks seat hack tune.
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| dkizerian | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 22/04/2014 | | Posts | : | 18 | | Location | : | Utah, United States |
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| | Posted : 22 May 2014 - 17:03 Post title : Re: Commander vs. Storm (Re: dkizerian) | | | I rode both yesterday and here are my findings and decision.
Storm:
*engine felt a tiny bit "punchier"
*sounds awesome
*disliked the pegs, and was unsure of whether the floorboard kit would improve position
*my arms and wrists didn't like the stock bar position, would definitely need longer risers at least.
*hated the seat
Commander
* Most of my likes for this bike are based on familiarity, it just feels right too me. So things feel the same as my outgoing vulcan, so just fall into place exactly where I would put them.
*liked bars, will probably need short riser extensions which i think I can make work (I know I'm one of the only ones that likes these bars, but they are a close match to my vulcan, and just feel comfortable to me)
*LOVED the seat
*liked where the floorboards were, and with a slight adjustment to raise the shifter I'll be very comfortable
*engine felt less hurried, which was comfortable to me.
These are just my musings, and I could be completely wrong...
The power on the commander felt less focused, less abrupt. I think when dyno sheets start showing up for the Commander or LT (wonder if they're even the same?) You'll see that the Torque curve is much less sharp at the front end (1500 - 3000 rpm) than the Storm's.
I really enjoyed both bikes, but the feel of the Commander matched my riding style and desires better than that of the Storm. Couple that with the familiarity of the bike and...
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VERDICT - I'm ordering a black and silver Commander today, and then hoping it makes it here soon!
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