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PapaSmurfMC | Chaac | | | Reg. Date | : | 03/10/2013 | Posts | : | 871 | Location | : | Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States |
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| Posted : 31 Oct 2013 - 03:05 Post title : Mustang Seat Installed | | After an 80 mile ride a few weeks ago, my butt told me to get off it and order a decent seat. I'd had a Mustang vintage/touring seat on my previous bike and it was really excellent so I looked around a little but still saw nothing better and ordered the new Mustang Solo Seat (splurged on the backrest, too) for the TBird, part number 79825.
Out of the box it was exactly what I remembered and expected. It makes the stock seat look like a slab of wood.
There are no ducts for the air intake on the Mustang (like on the stock) but there's plenty of room under and around the mounted seat. Looking at the intake ducts (which face the back of the bike) on the stock seat, hard to imagine those actually having any more effect than just saving space for air.
Mounted on the Bird, the seat looks great. The shape is so different from the stock seat, can't really make a judgement on comfort, yet, give me a few weeks, but when you sit in it, you fit.
The one thing I'm not settled on yet, and I've got an email into Mustang Support about, is that I've got a Triumph tubular solo rack and the Mustang seat fits snuggly right up against it.
It's not a struggle to get the seat on with the rack in place but the back of the seat pushes against the rack just enough to slightly deform the back of the seat and the rubbing of the seat cover on the rack makes a squeaking sound that NEEDS a solution.
I've never had a backrest before and it is awesome but I probably won't ride with it all the time. I've also verified something read in another post that there isn't anything locking the backrest to the seat. Someone could just pull it up and walk away with it.
Looking forward to breaking this seat in right in time to winterize and put away for the winter.
Ride safe!
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RC65 | Chaac | | Reg. Date | : | 19/05/2011 | Posts | : | 679 | Location | : | Redmond, Washington, United States |
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| Posted : 31 Oct 2013 - 05:33 Post title : Re: Mustang Seat Installed (Re: PapaSmurfMC) | | Congrats on the purchase, and thanks for the write-up and pictures. This is exactly what I'm asking Santa for for Christmas, and your positive report gives me even more reason to look forward to it. I'll be sporting the curved/thin/pressed rack on the rear fender, so hopefully I won't experience that the rubbing you're getting. Good luck getting that squared away.
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jjc1957 | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 03/06/2013 | Posts | : | 165 | Location | : | Rehoboth, MA, United States |
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| Posted : 31 Oct 2013 - 14:11 Post title : Re: Mustang Seat Installed (Re: RC65) | | I also put the Mustang on and love it. Sooooo much better then stock. I also went with the Pro-Tac Backrest from Fast Eddy Link and works great with my setup
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intimidator32 | Chaac | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2012 | Posts | : | 913 | Location | : | lexington, ky, United States |
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| Posted : 31 Oct 2013 - 22:30 Post title : Re: Mustang Seat Installed (Re: jjc1957) | | the only question i have left about the mustang seat is that it looks like it might push the rider a little further forward than either of the triumph seats. is this true and if so does this bother any of you who have the mustang seat?
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RC65 | Chaac | | Reg. Date | : | 19/05/2011 | Posts | : | 679 | Location | : | Redmond, Washington, United States |
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| Posted : 31 Oct 2013 - 23:02 Post title : Re: Mustang Seat Installed (Re: PapaSmurfMC) | | I'll of course let those who actually have the seat answer that question, but if you compare the second below photo above to a similar one I took of my longhaul a year or so ago and note where the seam is...it doesn't look like it pushes one forward much at all:
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PapaSmurfMC | Chaac | | | Reg. Date | : | 03/10/2013 | Posts | : | 871 | Location | : | Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States |
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| Posted : 01 Nov 2013 - 04:11 Post title : Re: Mustang Seat Installed (Re: RC65) | | No more squeak. No more rubbing. If you're going to use the Triumph Tubular Solo Rack and the Mustang seat, count on this simple mod to put some space between the rack and the seat. The general idea is to elongate the mounting holes in the tubular rack enough to slide it away from the seat back. I used nothing more than a Dremel tool and a small rat tail file.
First, I wrapped the entire rack in painter's tape to protect the chrome.
With the Dremel tool, carefully remove enough material from each mounting hole towards the tips of the mounts. No need to make the new hole round; the mounting screws are already much smaller gauge than the holes in the rack need so just remove enough material to clear the screw. With the holes elongated, clean up and de-burr with a rat tail file. It's especially important that the rack mounting surface that's against the fender doesn't have any burrs or sharp edges; you don't want it cutting through the protective film on the fender and piercing the paint.
Mount the rack, sliding it as far as it will go towards the tail light. I gave the elongated holes a good bath in chrome polish to protect the exposed metal. I also replaced the supplied washers with larger stainless steel washers to cover the [now larger] mounting holes.
There was plenty of room to elongate the rack mounting holes without compromising strength. Now you can see daylight between the rack and the back of the seat.
Mustang Tech Support has still not responded to my complaint about the seat interfering with the rack.
Ride Safe!
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intimidator32 | Chaac | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2012 | Posts | : | 913 | Location | : | lexington, ky, United States |
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| Posted : 01 Nov 2013 - 09:19 Post title : Re: Mustang Seat Installed (Re: RC65) | |
RC65 wrote:
I'll of course let those who actually have the seat answer that question, but if you compare the second below photo above to a similar one I took of my longhaul a year or so ago and note where the seam is...it doesn't look like it pushes one forward much at all:
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I agree with you RC, looks to have a deeper pocket also and not the huge hump on the nose area which is a good thing
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jjc1957 | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 03/06/2013 | Posts | : | 165 | Location | : | Rehoboth, MA, United States |
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| Posted : 01 Nov 2013 - 20:22 Post title : Re: Mustang Seat Installed (Re: intimidator32) | | I think the Mustang lowers you a bit because my windshield is right in my vision line. When I purchased this motorcycle I cut the windshield down around 2 1/2" so the top was just below my vision line. When I put the Mustang on the cut line of the windshield seems to be higher. So I know my windshield didn't move so it must be the seat is a bit lower.
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PapaSmurfMC | Chaac | | | Reg. Date | : | 03/10/2013 | Posts | : | 871 | Location | : | Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States |
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| Posted : 03 Nov 2013 - 03:11 Post title : Re: Mustang Seat Installed (Re: intimidator32) | | Finally got to try out my new Mustang vintage today. A 70 mile ride and my butt didn't even realize it was sitting down.
I didn't feel positioned any differently than with the stock seat, just no pressure points. Felt a little strange for the first few miles and found myself "readjusting" at red lights but pretty quickly just got caught up in the ride and forgot all about it. Even after a couple of hours in the saddle, wasn't even conscious of the seat and several times caught myself not slouching. Nice.
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Rihoncye | Set | | Reg. Date | : | 25/01/2012 | Posts | : | 45 | Location | : | Kansas, United States |
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| Posted : 03 Nov 2013 - 06:19 Post title : Re: Mustang Seat Installed (Re: PapaSmurfMC) | | I ordered mine today from CruiserCustomizing for $449.00, rider and pillon. Thats about the same price as the the long haul solo and pillion. I currently have the one piece long haul tour seat and do think it is comfy, but prefer the look of a two piece seat and love how the Mustang looks. Plus I can take off te pillion and just ride solo when I want to look cool. The stock seat and pillon looks nice but are not comfortable at all, and if you remove the pillon to just ride solo it kills your back. Hopefully it was a wise decision as I don't have money to waste, but the more time I can spend on the bird the happier I am. I also picked up a pair of gerrbing heated gloves today. I will report on both once I get some ride time in. I am hoping the gloves will inable me to ride throughout the winter as it is usually my hands that feel the cold the most. I'll be back in a week or so with an update.
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Rihoncye | Set | | Reg. Date | : | 25/01/2012 | Posts | : | 45 | Location | : | Kansas, United States |
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| Posted : 08 Nov 2013 - 06:06 Post title : Re: Mustang Seat Installed (Re: Rihoncye) | | Seat came in today, beautiful as can be. Installs easily and looks amazing. Went for a short cruise and so far it feels great and looks much better on the bike. It deffenately sits lower then the long haul tour because I now see through the windshield instead of over it. My reach seems further also so I think it sets you back a little further. I really is a nice looking saddle and makes you feel more like you are sitting in the bike not on the bike. I plan on doing a lot of riding this weekend so I will report more once I get some miles on it. As for the the gloves, they are awesome, rode to work this morning 37degrees low heat turned on and I had to stop and turn them off because my hands where to warm. I am sure they will be good to below freezing temperatures and I will report again when we get there in Kansas.
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SergeR | Set | | Reg. Date | : | 19/11/2013 | Posts | : | 15 | Location | : | Maren-Kessel, Noord-Brabant, Netherlands |
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| Posted : 19 Nov 2013 - 17:54 Post title : Re: Mustang Seat Installed (Re: PapaSmurfMC) | | Does anyone have experience with both the Longhaul seat and the Mustang seat? How do they compare?
Mustang and Corbin seats are outrageously expensive in Europe (roughly US$ 1100 for seat & back rest), so I opted for the Longhaul seat with back rest which was much less expensive. The Longhaul seat is much better compared to the stock seat. However I have a weak back, so I hope I stay happy with the combo when I start making large trips.
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Rihoncye | Set | | Reg. Date | : | 25/01/2012 | Posts | : | 45 | Location | : | Kansas, United States |
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| Posted : 23 Nov 2013 - 05:30 Post title : Re: Mustang Seat Installed (Re: SergeR) | | IMO: I have about 600 miles in the new Mustang saddle now and was running the long haul tour prior. Comfort wise it is tough to decide. The long haul is a good seat at a great price. The mustang sits lower and puts the rider back just a little further I am sure. I think the mustang looks much better and does provide better back support. I got mine for $445. US which is only about $80. More than the long haul. For me it was worth it and I am happy with it. It really seams to be a quality made product. Mine may even need a little more breaking time. I'll post again after more ride time. Unfortunately it's getting into the crappy season so riding days will be limited for a while.
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Bodger | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 28/02/2012 | Posts | : | 373 | Location | : | Aberdeen, United Kingdom |
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| Posted : 23 Nov 2013 - 12:15 Post title : Re: Mustang Seat Installed (Re: SergeR) | | Serge The Corbin seat is very, very comfortable, but IMO not worth what they are charging ( in Europe) . The back rest, on other hand is a complete waste of money on the solo seat. The only adjustment is to tilt the pad on the back rest post ( next to useless ). If you know a friendly blacksmith you could get the seat post bent to a more suitable position, to bring the back rest closer to where it is actually doing what it supposed to do (support your back). IMO the back rest was an afterthought, very poorly designed and a complete waste of cash. It may be different on the Corbin dual seat. Don't expect any help from the after sales arseholes.
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SaltyDog | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 24/10/2013 | Posts | : | 59 | Location | : | Canada |
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| Posted : 23 Nov 2013 - 20:31 Post title : Re: Mustang Seat Installed (Re: intimidator32) | | a question for those of you who have or had both of these...I understand that the mustang and longhaul are very similar for the rider but what about the pillion??? is there a better seat for the pillion? for me, if both seats are close, then I think the deciding factor would be pillion comfort as the wife and I plan on putting lots of miles on one of these seats or the other so if she aint happy, then I won't be either. No mater which I get I will buy the two piece so i can ride it solo. I won't use the pillion very often as the wife has her own bike but we want to do some longer distance two up touring from time to time as well.
Thanks SaltyDog
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RC65 | Chaac | | Reg. Date | : | 19/05/2011 | Posts | : | 679 | Location | : | Redmond, Washington, United States |
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| Posted : 23 Nov 2013 - 21:00 Post title : Re: Mustang Seat Installed (Re: SaltyDog) | | I have had the dual longhaul Triumph OEM for over a year now, and I had a Mustang on my previous bike (a Vulcan 900 Custom) for two years. As I don't believe there is much difference between the Vintage Mustang that's built for the VN900 and the TBird, I think I can speak with some experience as to how the longhaul OEM and the Mustang compare.
As mentioned, I have the longhaul now, and I plan on buying the Mustang in the spring/summer of 2014. Why? The longhaul has the same problem as the stock seat...there's a notable softness to the transition between the rear and bottom of the seat, more of a curved transition, and, for me, that transition is what makes the seat increasingly uncomfortable over time as it continues to press and rub against the tailbone and becomes especially pronounced w/ vibration, poor road condition, etc. There're other lesser issues, but that's the big one for me. The Mustang, on the other hand, has a marked pocket-like transition, more like an firm L than a soft curve. That pocket-like L allows for a far more comfortable ride (especially after the first 500-mile break-in period). Check your car seat or your office chair or your sofa, those seatings that allow for hours of comfort...no curve there, is there?
The deeper L also allows for a bit more brace against the lower back, but since it only comes up to paint-waist level, it isn't much better than the Triumph. For true back support, one would need a true support add-on. But comparing apples to apples, the Mustang is in my mind the clear choice, and that's precisely why I'll be upgrading next year to a Mustang Vintage solo rider seat. I gave the longhaul a full year to prove itself, and ultimately it failed...I'll keep it for the rare occasion when I have a passenger, but otherwise it's Mustang all the way for me.
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cavallaro | Set | | Reg. Date | : | 26/07/2013 | Posts | : | 58 | Location | : | Brazil |
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| Posted : 15 Jan 2014 - 16:38 Post title : Re: Mustang Seat Installed (Re: SaltyDog) | | Hi Folks, For those who always takes the driver's seat, there is some kind of screw easier to remove than the original that comes with the bike? Thanks
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Birdy68 | Thor | | | Reg. Date | : | 16/07/2009 | Posts | : | 3,352 | Location | : | Bad Zurzach, Aargau, Switzerland |
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| Posted : 15 Jan 2014 - 17:36 Post title : Re: Mustang Seat Installed (Re: cavallaro) | | Hi there,
I don't know of any bolts that come with the bike as standard - but - FastEddy has these:
And they work perfectly!
Here's the link.
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cavallaro | Set | | Reg. Date | : | 26/07/2013 | Posts | : | 58 | Location | : | Brazil |
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| Posted : 16 Jan 2014 - 01:00 Post title : Re: Mustang Seat Installed (Re: Birdy68) | | Birdy68 But I could not figure out the difference between this eddy and genuine. Both should use allen key type
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Terota66 | Chaac | | | Reg. Date | : | 24/11/2013 | Posts | : | 505 | Location | : | Nova Scotia, Canada |
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| Posted : 07 Feb 2014 - 21:14 Post title : Re: Mustang Seat Installed (Re: SaltyDog) | | I to have the same concerns, I've been reading up a lot on seats and I'm leaned more towards the mustang, reading peeps experiences with these seats on this forum and others, everyone says the same thing about the corbin (crap backrest) where the mustang has more movement with the backrest ...... Looking at the seats and doing the specs in my opinion is mustang, which I will be ordering at the end of march at around $800 plus change for us Canadians ...... I don't like the longhaul simply because you can't switch the look of your bike to solo, which 99% of my riding is going to be
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Thatch | Thor | | | Reg. Date | : | 24/06/2009 | Posts | : | 3,655 | Location | : | Savannah, GA, United States |
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| Posted : 08 Feb 2014 - 18:45 Post title : Re: Mustang Seat Installed (Re: Birdy68) | |
Birdy68 wrote:
Hi there,
I don't know of any bolts that come with the bike as standard - but - FastEddy has these:
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I've still got to get around to getting me a set of those....
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feduke | Thor | | | Reg. Date | : | 11/08/2009 | Posts | : | 2,441 | Location | : | Daytona Beach, Florida, United States |
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| Posted : 09 Feb 2014 - 14:37 Post title : Re: Mustang Seat Installed (Re: Terota66) | |
Terota66 wrote:
I to have the same concerns, I've been reading up a lot on seats and I'm leaned more towards the mustang, reading peeps experiences with these seats on this forum and others, everyone says the same thing about the corbin (crap backrest) where the mustang has more movement with the backrest ...... Looking at the seats and doing the specs in my opinion is mustang, which I will be ordering at the end of march at around $800 plus change for us Canadians ...... I don't like the longhaul simply because you can't switch the look of your bike to solo, which 99% of my riding is going to be |
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And you had better take that easily removable backrest on the Mustang with you when you park your bike. Mine was "easily removed" one night and I quickly found out that Mustang will not sell you a replacement. You have to buy a whole new seat to get one. As the vice president of Mustang told me before he slammed the phone down in my ear, "We don't sell fucking parts. We sell seats." Well excuse my French but, fuck Mustang! If that's the extent of their customer service, anyone who deals knowingly with them has to be nuts. If you don't like the Russell Daylong, which is the most comfortable seat I ever sat on and cheaper than Mustang, look at Ultimate Seats or Sergeant. They are much better than Mustang and will provide excellent service should the need arise.
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| Posted : 09 Feb 2014 - 16:44 Post title : Re: Mustang Seat Installed (Re: feduke) | | This is one of the reasons why I opted for the solo seat without the detachable backrest and am considering the Feling backrest option. Must however admit that the fact that it does not fold is a drawback. On the other hand, the bike is quite low, so hauling my leg over the backrest shouldn't be so bad.
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Terota66 | Chaac | | | Reg. Date | : | 24/11/2013 | Posts | : | 505 | Location | : | Nova Scotia, Canada |
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| Posted : 10 Feb 2014 - 00:33 Post title : Re: Mustang Seat Installed (Re: feduke) | | The Russell Daylong is way to expensive, its going to be well over 1K by the time I ship it there and they ship back, looked into it already ..... I've posted on here Corbin or Mustang ...... now I've heard the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly of both companies but I still lean towards the Mustang, although I like the look of the Corbin but hate that dreadful looking backrest. I love the input of others who have these seats and the problems and likes of these seats. I think I don't have much worries of getting my backrest stolen being I have the only Triumph in the area (within a 3 hour drive) but I do lean towards the Mustang mostly because of price (around $650 delivered to my door) and the rear backrest. Corbin would be over 1K by the time it gets here. So all in all with our short bike season here it makes more sense for me to buy the Mustang which I first liked.
P.S. looked at the other companies and they don't really show anything on the t-bird.... am I looking at the site wrong?
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feduke | Thor | | | Reg. Date | : | 11/08/2009 | Posts | : | 2,441 | Location | : | Daytona Beach, Florida, United States |
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| Posted : 10 Feb 2014 - 00:57 Post title : Re: Mustang Seat Installed (Re: Terota66) | | While I definitely dont like the lack of comfort on the Corbin, you can order the smaller backrest which folds forward and is spring loaded. I hate that donut too! Mine was like sitting on a brick and I really doubt you would like it, although some people do.
I just hate to ee anyone buy from Mustang after the way I was treated. They are real assholes!
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satch1961 | Chaac | | Reg. Date | : | 27/09/2013 | Posts | : | 583 | Location | : | United States |
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| Posted : 10 Feb 2014 - 01:18 Post title : Re: Mustang Seat Installed (Re: Terota66) | | I really want to keep a passenger seat handy in the event my wife decides to get brave and ride. But the triumph pillion options are shitty. Asking anyone larger than a size 2 female to ride that tiny seat for more than ten minutes is an excersize in futility. The longhaul two up seat riding position forces the driver too close to that massive tank so my legs are open and straddling that big thing all the time. So then we have the longhaul solo seats and i dont see any perceptible difference between those and the stock solo seats. If the longhaul solos were at least 3 inches wider i would say they may be worth the expense. But i cant find a spec to measure the difference. Gotta say one thing about harley.....they make awesome and comfy touring seats Why the hell cant triumph?
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satch1961 | Chaac | | Reg. Date | : | 27/09/2013 | Posts | : | 583 | Location | : | United States |
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| Posted : 10 Feb 2014 - 01:27 Post title : Re: Mustang Seat Installed (Re: satch1961) | | I should also mention that the fact that triumph cant find a way for us to buy and install a longhaul solo passenger seat and fit it with the regular solo driver seat is bullshite. Why cant we mix and match? They cant find a way to configure the seats so they can be used independany?
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| Posted : 10 Feb 2014 - 05:16 Post title : Re: Mustang Seat Installed (Re: satch1961) | |
satch1961 wrote:
I really want to keep a passenger seat handy in the event my wife decides to get brave and ride. But the triumph pillion options are shitty. Asking anyone larger than a size 2 female to ride that tiny seat for more than ten minutes is an excersize in futility. The longhaul two up seat riding position forces the driver too close to that massive tank so my legs are open and straddling that big thing all the time. So then we have the longhaul solo seats and i dont see any perceptible difference between those and the stock solo seats. If the longhaul solos were at least 3 inches wider i would say they may be worth the expense. But i cant find a spec to measure the difference. Gotta say one thing about harley.....they make awesome and comfy touring seats Why the hell cant triumph?
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If you go to the acc. section page 7 there is a thread by Oak " Photo comparison of Triumph long haul seats and stock.
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satch1961 | Chaac | | Reg. Date | : | 27/09/2013 | Posts | : | 583 | Location | : | United States |
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| Posted : 10 Feb 2014 - 06:10 Post title : Re: Mustang Seat Installed (Re: Linkdog) | | exactly what I needed - thanks Dog
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