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| k8sdad | | Set |  | | Reg. Date | : | 02/01/2013 | | Posts | : | 15 | | Location | : | johnson city, tn, United States |
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| | Posted : 29 Apr 2013 - 01:30 Post title : Tors exhaust for Tbird | | | I see lots of Tbirds with "short TORS". Are there "long TORS"? The Triumph site is under construction and I can find it there. Also anyone know how much they cost?
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| Linkdog | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 10/02/2011 | | Posts | : | 2,949 | | Location | : | Groveland, FL., United States |
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| | Posted : 29 Apr 2013 - 03:58 Post title : Re: Tors exhaust for Tbird (Re: k8sdad) | | | Yes there are long TORS and if I"m correct they're around $400- $500.
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| RedBird2010 | | Chaac | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 11/10/2010 | | Posts | : | 666 | | Location | : | Spokane Valley, Washington, United States |
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| | Posted : 29 Apr 2013 - 03:59 Post title : Re: Tors exhaust for Tbird (Re: k8sdad) | | |
k8sdad wrote:
I see lots of Tbirds with "short TORS". Are there "long TORS"? The Triumph site is under construction and I can find it there. Also anyone know how much they cost? |
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I have long TORS on mine, can't tell by looking at them cause they look just like the stock set. Not sure about the cost, I had mine put on when I bought the bike new.
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2010 Thunderbird SE 1600
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| daz | | Zeus | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,705 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 29 Apr 2013 - 04:01 Post title : Re: Tors exhaust for Tbird (Re: k8sdad) | | | Yes. The longs look exactly the same as the stock pipes but of course less restrictive. I've had both and the shorts to me sounded a lot better and also gave me a nice power boost that the longs did not, tho to be fair it's been said the longs may have been changed for the better since then. (mine were some of the 1st sold) The longs used to be the same price but i believe later on they changed so the shorts were a few bucks cheaper, something like 20 or 30 bucks if i recall.
| 2010 Blue/White Thunderbird, "Brutus". 1700 kit, short tors, gutted cat, UNI filter, filter seal off, custom tune. Brutus in his native habitat: Link
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| intimidator32 | | Chaac | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2012 | | Posts | : | 913 | | Location | : | lexington, ky, United States |
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| | Posted : 29 Apr 2013 - 10:49 Post title : Re: Tors exhaust for Tbird (Re: daz) | | | agree daz, the shorts sound better with the cat on but when decatted i dont know how the longs sound decatted but its got to be better than the shorts. my advice is if you want the longs get the stainless ride longs from fast eddy . i think they sound a whole lot better than the tor's and just for a few bucks more
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| robertrichhart | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 30/09/2009 | | Posts | : | 22 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 30 Apr 2013 - 02:06 Post title : Re: Tors exhaust for Tbird (Re: k8sdad) | | | I have the long TORs on my Bird with the Big Bore kit. They sounded good when the bike was new but seemed a little subdued... As they have gotten older they have opened up in sound a lot!! I love the sound now after the rebuild, as it became much deeper. When you roll the throttle now they really come to life. Some of the guys I ride with regularly actually thought I had put on new pipes because the bike has gotten much louder when revved...
| 2010 TBird with Long TORs, Big Bore kit, K&N air filter, intake seal removed
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| SeanS | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 17/10/2009 | | Posts | : | 1,179 | | Location | : | Matlock, Derbyshire UK, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 30 Apr 2013 - 03:24 Post title : Re: Tors exhaust for Tbird (Re: intimidator32) | | |
intimidator32 wrote:
agree daz, the shorts sound better with the cat on but when decatted i dont know how the longs sound decatted but its got to be better than the shorts. my advice is if you want the longs get the stainless ride longs from fast eddy . i think they sound a whole lot better than the tor's and just for a few bucks more |
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Disagree re short TORs. I love the sound of mine decatted
With Dave Platts crossovers they sound excellent and I actually believe mpg improved, assuming I keep control of throttle that is.
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| PES | | Chaac | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 03/01/2009 | | Posts | : | 927 | | Location | : | Tulsa, OK, United States |
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| | Posted : 01 May 2013 - 01:58 Post title : Re: Tors exhaust for Tbird (Re: SeanS) | | | You can usually get a good deal on Triumph parts at Motorcycle Accessory Discount Superstore (MADSS.com). Long TORs are $382.49.
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| intimidator32 | | Chaac | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2012 | | Posts | : | 913 | | Location | : | lexington, ky, United States |
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| | Posted : 01 May 2013 - 21:53 Post title : Re: Tors exhaust for Tbird (Re: SeanS) | | |
SeanS wrote:
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Disagree re short TORs. I love the sound of mine decatted
With Dave Platts crossovers they sound excellent and I actually believe mpg improved, assuming I keep control of throttle that is. |
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just a matter of personal taste brother thats all
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| SeanS | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 17/10/2009 | | Posts | : | 1,179 | | Location | : | Matlock, Derbyshire UK, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 01 May 2013 - 22:03 Post title : Re: Tors exhaust for Tbird (Re: intimidator32) | | |
intimidator32 wrote:
SeanS wrote:
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Disagree re short TORs. I love the sound of mine decatted
With Dave Platts crossovers they sound excellent and I actually believe mpg improved, assuming I keep control of throttle that is. |
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just a matter of personal taste brother thats all |
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Agree Bro. We all like what we ride
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| Les0 | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 07/05/2013 | | Posts | : | 18 | | Location | : | Melbourne, Australia |
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| | Posted : 07 May 2013 - 12:02 Post title : Re: Tors exhaust for Tbird (Re: SeanS) | | | Hi Guys,
I'm tossing up between the long tors and the short tors.
Is there a lot of difference between them as far as additional horsepower with the CAT removed.
Is there a big difference in the Db between two.
I tried the short Tors and they sound okay. Maybe just a little loud for me and they crackled just a little too much when decelerating but I haven't seen one with the long Tors on it to compare.
I want people to turn their heads and look but not because it makes their ears bleed like some of the bikes getting around
Cheers
Les
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| daz | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,705 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 07 May 2013 - 14:43 Post title : Re: Tors exhaust for Tbird (Re: Les0) | | | The shorts are very slightly louder, but IMP sound a lot better. The longs sound nasally. Also, the shorts weigh less, allow axl access w/o having to remove the pipe, and I and at least one ofther member noted the bike's vibration seemed to smooth out a good bit. I attribute that to the fact the longs extend way past the rear muffler mount so that long heavy end vibrates up and down causing vibration. Whatever the reason it smoothed out very noticeably. Just the better deeper sound alone IMO is worth it, as is the much better look. Now that i think about it, any one of those reasons is enough IMO. Far better pipe to me at least.
As for performance w/o the cat, i imagine shorts would be better if theres any diff because they are a bit less restrictive. But thats debatable. No one is really going to be able to tell you for sure. I ran mine sans cat for about 6 months and recently went back to the cat and it just seems to run more "right" like this. By the way, if you are worried about volume as you seem to be, forget about going catless. It's outright loud as hell. It's literally to my ear at least 3 times as loud as with the cat. It's cranking loud. Either long or short tors with cat is worlds quieter. I feel the shorts are just right. I don't like loud pipes myself and the shorts add just a bit more and better deeper tone. Perfect IMO. But the catless bike eventually drove me back to the cat. The volume was just nasty.
| 2010 Blue/White Thunderbird, "Brutus". 1700 kit, short tors, gutted cat, UNI filter, filter seal off, custom tune. Brutus in his native habitat: Link
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| zolti | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 23/03/2010 | | Posts | : | 3,127 | | Location | : | newcastle , United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 08 May 2013 - 06:10 Post title : Re: Tors exhaust for Tbird (Re: Les0) | | |
Les0 wrote:
I tried the short Tors and they sound okay. Maybe just a little loud for me and they crackled just a little too much when decelerating but I haven't seen one with the long Tors on it to compare.
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when you tried the shorties did you remap? correct map and adaption should eliminate the crackle to a gurgle with the occasional pop.
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| stevew | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 02/10/2009 | | Posts | : | 477 | | Location | : | Newcastle, N.S.W., Australia |
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| | Posted : 08 May 2013 - 07:02 Post title : Re: Tors exhaust for Tbird (Re: zolti) | | | Have a look at these on Aus E-Bay.
Bigger internal core has been fitted ,don't know if they are packed with glass or not ,but the core appears to be perforated tube,should sound very interesting.
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| Leethal | | Zeus | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 24/01/2011 | | Posts | : | 6,485 | | Location | : | Australia |
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| | Posted : 08 May 2013 - 07:30 Post title : Re: Tors exhaust for Tbird (Re: stevew) | | | That's the mob on Moss Street, Steve, they did Dan's (Surfin72) reverse megaphone pipes.
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| Les0 | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 07/05/2013 | | Posts | : | 18 | | Location | : | Melbourne, Australia |
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| | Posted : 08 May 2013 - 10:41 Post title : Re: Tors exhaust for Tbird (Re: zolti) | | |
zolti wrote:
Les0 wrote:
I tried the short Tors and they sound okay. Maybe just a little loud for me and they crackled just a little too much when decelerating but I haven't seen one with the long Tors on it to compare.
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when you tried the shorties did you remap? correct map and adaption should eliminate the crackle to a gurgle with the occasional pop. |
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Thanks Zolti
I test rode a bike with the short Tors on. I didn't ask him he had it remapped Maybe that was the problem. 
I think I will go with short Tors and leave the CAT in for starters and see how I go when I get the new bike
Cheers
Les0
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| mat1600 | | Thunderbird | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 06/03/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,596 | | Location | : | Bridlington, Democratic Independant State of Yorkshire, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 08 May 2013 - 11:27 Post title : Re: Tors exhaust for Tbird (Re: Les0) | | | I find it too loud with Shorties and no cat. Left my cat on.
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| SeanS | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 17/10/2009 | | Posts | : | 1,179 | | Location | : | Matlock, Derbyshire UK, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 08 May 2013 - 18:37 Post title : Re: Tors exhaust for Tbird (Re: mat1600) | | |
mat1600 wrote:
I find it too loud with Shorties and no cat. Left my cat on. |
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Shorties and cat bypass
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| Lantesh | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 25/05/2011 | | Posts | : | 243 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 25 May 2013 - 16:53 Post title : Re: Tors exhaust for Tbird (Re: k8sdad) | | | I have the longs with the cat still in place, and I really like this setup. I've heard better sounding pipes, but the volume is perfect. At idle, or when cruising along it is no louder than stock, but when rolling on the throttle they come to life. I've had other bikes with loud pipes that gave me a headache. Even worse some pipes make that horrible droning noise while cruising. So I'm pretty happy with the long tors. They can't compete with a Harley, but they won't reverberate my head off of my shoulders either.
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| bryanbear84 | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 28/02/2013 | | Posts | : | 23 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 26 May 2013 - 01:27 Post title : Re: Tors exhaust for Tbird (Re: Lantesh) | | | I bought a 2010 Tbird 1600 Demo, in 2011, that had long TORS on it. It sounded great, but a little quiet. I decatted it and it's just right on throttle, but still quiet at speed and idle (deeper rumble though). Not sure if I want to do anything more. I did hear there is a baffle you can punch a hole in to make it louder at idle, but I cannot locate where it is. Anyhow it is good for now.
Les
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| Dougl | | Chaac | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 13/07/2012 | | Posts | : | 544 | | Location | : | Reno, Nevada, United States |
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| | Posted : 26 May 2013 - 02:27 Post title : Re: Tors exhaust for Tbird (Re: SeanS) | | |
SeanS wrote:
mat1600 wrote:
I find it too loud with Shorties and no cat. Left my cat on. |
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Shorties and cat bypass |
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Sean, what are you using for a tune?
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| SeanS | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 17/10/2009 | | Posts | : | 1,179 | | Location | : | Matlock, Derbyshire UK, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 26 May 2013 - 09:37 Post title : Re: Tors exhaust for Tbird (Re: Dougl) | | |
Dougl wrote:
SeanS wrote:
mat1600 wrote:
I find it too loud with Shorties and no cat. Left my cat on. |
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Sean, what are you using for a tune?
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Standard Short TOR 1600 tune Dougl
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| bryanbear84 | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 28/02/2013 | | Posts | : | 23 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 03 Jun 2013 - 04:45 Post title : Re: Tors exhaust for Tbird (Re: bryanbear84) | | | Here is a short clip of my Tbird if anyone is interested. No major mods compared to what some of you are doing. I focused on making my bird sound and feel like I want it. So, I put on elbows instead of the CAT. Then I changed out the OEM shocks for 12.5" Progressive 440s. Sounds great to me and my feet are firmly on the ground with good clearance between the tire and the fender. Crash bars/pegs and backrest/luggage rack top her off. Many of the tips it took from this forum. Wealth of knowledge here. From a newbie to the Triumph and motorcycle worlds (almost 2 years riding), thanks much guys.
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| Phil626 | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 07/10/2010 | | Posts | : | 28 | | Location | : | Whitby, Ontario, Canada |
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| | Posted : 03 Jun 2013 - 13:45 Post title : Re: Tors exhaust for Tbird (Re: bryanbear84) | | | Les....nice clip, bike looks great. The baffle plate for punching out is only in the standard pipes, if you have long TORS the plate is already removed.
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| bryanbear84 | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 28/02/2013 | | Posts | : | 23 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 03 Jun 2013 - 22:50 Post title : Re: Tors exhaust for Tbird (Re: Phil626) | | | Phil,
Nice to know my mistress is appealing to others. Lets me know she is worth keeping. Thanks for the info on the baffle plate to. I thought maybe I missed something.
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