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| | | fishy | | Set |  |  | | Reg. Date | : | 15/09/2012 | | Posts | : | 440 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 26 Mar 2013 - 01:29 Post title : Denver Colorado USA Thunderbirds-Clearview Windshield test | | | Hello,
I was checking to see if there are any Thunderbird 1600's in the Denver area that could go over to Clearview Windshields in a few weeks.
I am sending in my Summer Screen and they are going to make a screen for it and they wanted to do tests.
Mark at Clearview is interested in doing one for our bikes. They have a raised lip design and can put in vents.
Contact Mark at Clearview-
Phone-303-838-0886
I'm real happy with the Cee Bailey but I have also had real good service and results with Clearview on other bikes I have owned.
My summer screen got cracked riding in the high winds we had here this weekend so I'm going to send in my brackets. They wanted to have a test bike.
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| | Post edited by fishy on 26 Mar 2013 - 01:31 |
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| | | intimidator32 | | Chaac | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2012 | | Posts | : | 913 | | Location | : | lexington, ky, United States |
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| | Posted : 26 Mar 2013 - 01:48 Post title : Re: Denver Colorado USA Thunderbirds-Clearview Windshield test (Re: fishy) | | | isn't xfarmer in colorado, maybe he could go over there. fishy that sound like a good idea as i have the mid-screen and as you know the buffeting is a real pain in the neck
| currently on a slow Harley but will have another Triumph eventually 
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| | | BlackByrd | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 24/01/2012 | | Posts | : | 65 | | Location | : | Berea, OH, United States |
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| | Posted : 26 Mar 2013 - 05:09 Post title : Re: Denver Colorado USA Thunderbirds-Clearview Windshield test (Re: intimidator32) | | | Hey Guys,
I made the mistake of buying the Triumph mid-height screen at full retail last spring only to discover the buffeting was pretty bad, while it also moved the full blast over the top of the screen right smack in the middle of my helmet. I wasn't about to waste the money I spent looking for another brand of windscreen, so I opted for a lower cost solution. I bought the Laminar Lip designed to fit the V-Rod Touring model for $84 plus shipping and it fit perfectly. 
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It solved a great deal of the buffeting and kicked the air stream up over my helmet, making the ride much more comfortable. I installed it so I am looking over top of the Laminar Lip which is perfect for me (5'11" in height). Granted, it is not for everyone in looks, but it saved me the pain of finding another screen that works better. And with the QR hardware, I can remove the whole screen in seconds. For now, I'm satisfied until I see something better. I believe it is still lower than the full-height Triumph windscreen, which I likely would be looking through it all of the time--something I don't really like. See the photo attached...
Since this photo was taken, I have removed the Highway Hawk sissy bar and it is now for sale (along with a like-new Triumph cafe racer headlight nacelle in black) and I am about to change that pathetic looking mini-bike headlight to a 7 inch unit like Ditch has done on this forum.
Other mods include:
* the stock seat was re-foamed and re-covered in a carbon fiber looking material by the great guys at Sargent Cycle in FL--very comfortable!
* Pro-Tac backrest as shown from Fast Eddy.
* new rear wheel adjusters from Mat1600--they work great Mat!
* new rear hub roller bearings and seals--shout out to Mat for that fix!
* K&N air filter and new sintered brake pads from Fast Eddy.
* rear LED turn signal/brake light conversion from Custom Dynamics--they look and work great!
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| | | fishy | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 15/09/2012 | | Posts | : | 440 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 26 Mar 2013 - 12:31 Post title : Re: Denver Colorado USA Thunderbirds-Clearview Windshield test (Re: BlackByrd) | | | Byrd- One of my other issues with the Triumph shields is that so far the 3 that I have had start to crack at the bolting holes. I guess the same company that makes the saggy saddlebags makes the shields?
I don't know if I'm riding too fast but somewhere I saw that your supposed to stay under 80mph?? My last windshield warranty claim was rejected but they did say they would apply credit toward a Big Bore Kit. 
From this weekend. 
No I don't overtighten the bolts- it's 5 inch pounds, not foot pounds and NEVER use red Locktite on any plastic.
I saw on TV that there were 60-80 mph hour gusts from that storm front and I was heading right into it at 80 so I'm guessing there was too much pressure? The Cee Bailey shield has not had the issue. The air flow is really clean from the summer but not as good as the Dart Fly screen. In Florida and Michigan in the summer the issue is huge stinking bugs not buffeting.
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| | Post edited by fishy on 26 Mar 2013 - 12:48 |
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| | | Xfarmer | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 05/11/2011 | | Posts | : | 407 | | Location | : | Colorado Springs, Colorado, United States |
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| | Posted : 26 Mar 2013 - 19:15 Post title : Re: Denver Colorado USA Thunderbirds-Clearview Windshield test (Re: fishy) | | | fishy,
Sent ya a PM.
| John
Suzuki Boulevard S83, 2010 T-Bird 1700
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| | | fishy | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 15/09/2012 | | Posts | : | 440 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 26 Mar 2013 - 21:04 Post title : Re: Denver Colorado USA Thunderbirds-Clearview Windshield test (Re: Xfarmer) | | | PM sent back. Hope we can get this Clearview project off the ground and I will pay for the first one if you can test it out. My other bike is an S50. I was going to get an S83 but rode the T1600 and you know the rest.
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| | Post edited by fishy on 26 Mar 2013 - 21:05 |
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| | | Eskerinola | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 23/03/2011 | | Posts | : | 108 | | Location | : | Argentina |
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| | Posted : 26 Mar 2013 - 22:41 Post title : Re: Denver Colorado USA Thunderbirds-Clearview Windshield test (Re: fishy) | | | NO MORE BUFFETING.
I also bought the mid screen and made hundreds of modifications to get rid of the buffeting, till I found that rotating the screen backwards a few degrees (had to make a metal support in the bottom) AND enlarging the screen (new screen in acrylics 30mm longer with same Triumph fittings for $100) ERADICATED any buffeting, just a nice breeze. Tested @ 160km/h.
Special thanks to Stratosfer who initiated this rotating thing idea
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| | | BlackByrd | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 24/01/2012 | | Posts | : | 65 | | Location | : | Berea, OH, United States |
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| | Posted : 27 Mar 2013 - 03:22 Post title : Re: Denver Colorado USA Thunderbirds-Clearview Windshield test (Re: fishy) | | | If this is what I have to look forward to with my Triumph screen, oh boy. I guess the biggest disappointment I have with the Triumph brand is their accessories, for the most part, suck in overall quality and value. For the prices they get one would expect high quality. Instead we get bubbling chrome, sagging bags, cracking wind screens, tank bags with popping rivets, and paint with almost no clear coat that easily scratches.
You can say what you want about Harley Davidson, but I'll give them this: there ain't no one that does paint and chrome better in the entire motoring business, two-wheeled or four, than H-D. NO ONE! They make their own fiberglass, plastic and leather accessories in their Tomahawk, WI plant and yes, they're pricey, but they always fit like a glove and they're very high quality that lasts. Triumph has some serious lessons to learn from the folks at the Bar and Shield when it comes to accessories.
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| | | Daycruiser | | Chaac | | | Reg. Date | : | 08/11/2011 | | Posts | : | 704 | | Location | : | Garner, NC, United States |
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| | Posted : 27 Mar 2013 - 09:32 Post title : Re: Denver Colorado USA Thunderbirds-Clearview Windshield test (Re: BlackByrd) | | |
BlackByrd wrote:
If this is what I have to look forward to with my Triumph screen, oh boy. I guess the biggest disappointment I have with the Triumph brand is their accessories, for the most part, suck in overall quality and value. For the prices they get one would expect high quality. Instead we get bubbling chrome, sagging bags, cracking wind screens, tank bags with popping rivets, and paint with almost no clear coat that easily scratches.
You can say what you want about Harley Davidson, but I'll give them this: there ain't no one that does paint and chrome better in the entire motoring business, two-wheeled or four, than H-D. NO ONE! They make their own fiberglass, plastic and leather accessories in their Tomahawk, WI plant and yes, they're pricey, but they always fit like a glove and they're very high quality that lasts. Triumph has some serious lessons to learn from the folks at the Bar and Shield when it comes to accessories. |
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Exactly right Byrd. I've never been a Harley guy but they win hands down on fit and finish and accessory quality. Triumph has quality issues all over the bike and accessories.
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| | | intimidator32 | | Chaac | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2012 | | Posts | : | 913 | | Location | : | lexington, ky, United States |
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| | Posted : 06 Apr 2013 - 11:37 Post title : Re: Denver Colorado USA Thunderbirds-Clearview Windshield test (Re: Daycruiser) | | | whats really crazy is that chrome parts have been around for ages so it seems that anyone could make quality parts but i guess triumph is taking short-cuts or something i dont get it. yes h-d has great accessories and paint but the out dated technology of their engines is the real deal killer for me and the fact that they dont put enough brakes on their bikes is another, i could go on .
intimidator32(ron) triumph rider for life
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| | | BlackByrd | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 24/01/2012 | | Posts | : | 65 | | Location | : | Berea, OH, United States |
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| | Posted : 06 Apr 2013 - 17:41 Post title : Re: Denver Colorado USA Thunderbirds-Clearview Windshield test (Re: intimidator32) | | | I couldn't agree more on those "old school motor" and braking issues. Back in 1997-1998 I was hired by Harley-Davidson through my then employer based in Madison, WI to be their construction consultant on Harley's new assembly building we built in Kansas City for their Sportster and V-Rod bikes. I worked for H-D for 16 months and got to know Willie G and his design engineers, plant managers and production managers. I learned first hand that they have their own chrome facility in York, PA, as they haven't found their vendors are able to deliver the consistent quality of chrome they expect for their very loyal customers. All their chrome is triple plated, the right way to do it.
At the same time, BMW was building their SUV plant in South Carolina and they sent BMW paint engineers to visit the paint shop in KC while we were performing startup and QC testing. One of the BMW engineers told me the motoring industry considers H-D as the gold standard in quality of paint, chrome, fit and finish. Harley-Davidson and PPG industries co-developed clear coat powder coating, and Harley powder coats all of their frames and frame parts like swingarms, etc. And Harley still does all of their pinstriping by hand, a nice craftsman's touch. I only wish Triumph was near their quality in fit and finish, chrome and especially accessories.
Also while I was working at KC, Harley offered a two-day corral ride of all of their models for a regional HOG owners rally, so I took the opportunity to ride six or seven bikes that day, from the 883 Sportster to a Fat Boy to a Dyna Wide Glide to the Electra Glide Ultra Classic. The last bike I rode that day was the Buell (their biggest model but I forget the model name). Without a doubt it was the most fun bike I may have ever rode before or since, as it was based on a real racing frame and had incredible racing-bred Brembo disc brakes at both ends. Isn't it ironic that H-D killed one of the best bikes they have ever made, and to this day, the more recent models I have ridden continue to have lousy brakes fitted to them, at least the stock models. I have not ridden the V-Rod, but I am impressed by that engine, and I suspect and hope their brakes are at least on par with that motor.
After riding my brothers's 2008 Heritage Softail Classic for over a year and experiencing its under powered drive train, clunky transmission with its mystery neutral location and lousy brakes and front-diving, softly sprung forks, I test rode a Thunderbird Storm and was immediately sold on this superior bike, at least in handling, power and torque and very nicely shifting helical gear transmission. Now if only their paint and accessories were on par with their own performance and with Harley-Davidson's quality of finish.
I will sit down and write a letter to Triumph and John Bloor to bring these concerns to their attention, as Ditch has suggested to me. They need to know they are missing the boat in their QC of certain parts and accessories, and we owners are not pleased by it. Maybe we all need to post our concerns, not just on this forum (for who knows if anyone at Triumph is reading this) but directly to Triumph corporate in the UK.
I'm off my soapbox, now. Ride on brothers...
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| | | intimidator32 | | Chaac | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2012 | | Posts | : | 913 | | Location | : | lexington, ky, United States |
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| | Posted : 07 Apr 2013 - 00:59 Post title : Re: Denver Colorado USA Thunderbirds-Clearview Windshield test (Re: BlackByrd) | | | blackbyrd, you could just send the post you just wrote and i think Triumph would be amiss if they didn't listen . as for the paint problem i think i'll fix at least mine this next off season but the chrome problem well we'll all have to be creative on that prob .after all our bikes are for riding not just to look at
| currently on a slow Harley but will have another Triumph eventually
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| | | BluesDrummer | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 20/11/2010 | | Posts | : | 95 | | Location | : | Des Moines, Iowa, United States |
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| | Posted : 08 Apr 2013 - 15:29 Post title : Re: Denver Colorado USA Thunderbirds-Clearview Windshield test (Re: BlackByrd) | | | Hey BlackByryd,
Can you tell me which Custom Dynamics LED kit you used for the rear turn signal replacement?
Also, was there much in the way of wiring modification necessary?
Thanks for any help you can provide.
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