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 BigNoseG 
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Posted : 07 Jan 2013 - 06:02   Post title : Short TOR's A9600261
 
Hi all,

Does anyone know if the short TOR part# A9600261 will fit a TBird 1600, 2009. These are in an auction and the year they have come off is unknown (suggested a 2010). I have had a search around the web and can only find reference to the part number here, thanks:

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 daz 
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Posted : 07 Jan 2013 - 15:08   Post title : Re: Short TOR's A9600261 (Re: BigNoseG)
 
In case you aren't aware, that appears to be only one side. Usually "LH" refers to left hand side. I could be wrong, but they may well just be selling the left side muffler. And they also say what number it is in the drawing and that denote just the one left side pipe. Doesn't appear it even comes with the heat shield, which is different from the stock long pipe's shield.

 
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Posted : 07 Jan 2013 - 22:54   Post title : Re: Short TOR's A9600261 (Re: daz)
 
Thanks for that,

I had checked the seller if it was for both pipes and had asked if they would fit a 2009 but was more thinking about the set up and gas flow (will 2012 pipes fit a 2009, runs ok) didn't realize that the heat shields were different or would have to get those as well so have asked if they come with the pipes, thanks again for the info

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 SeanS 
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Posted : 07 Jan 2013 - 23:22   Post title : Re: Short TOR's A9600261 (Re: BigNoseG)
 

BigNoseG wrote:

Thanks for that,

I had checked the seller if it was for both pipes and had asked if they would fit a 2009 but was more thinking about the set up and gas flow (will 2012 pipes fit a 2009, runs ok) didn't realize that the heat shields were different or would have to get those as well so have asked if they come with the pipes, thanks again for the info


They will fit. I took the ones I had off of my 2009 bird and fitted to my new 2012 model. Fitted fine.
Make sure though that the exhaust comes with the correct shroud covers as the standard exhaust covers will not fit without rubbing.
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Posted : 08 Jan 2013 - 07:41   Post title : Re: Short TOR's A9600261 (Re: SeanS)
 
Thanks all,

You have saved me a bit of grief. The seller has replied saying it doesn't come with the shrouds as the original heat shield is the same for the short and long pipes (this is what he used) but you guys and part numbers say different.

Tempted to find the price for a set of heat shields as the price on offer here in New Zealand is US $415 as opposed to US $1,000 new. Living down under in NZ things are a bit more $$$$ and parts don't come along that often

Could buy on E-bay but postage and customs tax takes it right up.

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Posted : 08 Jan 2013 - 10:49   Post title : Re: Short TOR's A9600261 (Re: BigNoseG)
 
when I bought my Bird in 09 i ordered it with short TORS . the dealer gave me the stock pipes ( becuase I had paid for them on the Bike). but I never got any other heat shields. ?

 
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Posted : 08 Jan 2013 - 11:41   Post title : Re: Short TOR's A9600261 (Re: Bender)
 
The heat shields are the same for the TORs. You don't get replacement shields when you buy the TORs.

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Posted : 08 Jan 2013 - 12:26   Post title : Re: Short TOR's A9600261 (Re: Thatch)
 


 
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Posted : 08 Jan 2013 - 13:57   Post title : Re: Short TOR's A9600261 (Re: bnz433)
 
Short TOR Shields come with their Short TOR pipes in the kit.

Each kit has its own shields when you purchase them.

Since the Short Shields are a different shape altogether to the Long TOR Shields or Standard Muffler Shields.

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Posted : 08 Jan 2013 - 13:57   Post title : Re: Short TOR's A9600261 (Re: Thatch)
 

Thatch wrote:

The heat shields are the same for the TORs. You don't get replacement shields when you buy the TORs.


I certainly got replacement heat sheilds when I ordered my short TORS. It was actually in the description of the TORS when I was reading about them on the dealers website (Triumph Cruiser accesories catalogue). And if If I'm not mistaken, this descripstion comes from Triumph.
Furthermore (and please do correct me if I'm wrong), I think new heat shields are required because I think the diameter of the short TORS gets bigger at a quicker rate (from front to back) then the long ones do.....Thus a new heat shiled is required

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Posted : 08 Jan 2013 - 14:10   Post title : Re: Short TOR's A9600261 (Re: jov2002ca)
 
Hmmm, odd. I've not seen that, but if you got them, you got them. I can't imagine why they would be different shapes than stock though.

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Posted : 08 Jan 2013 - 14:57   Post title : Re: Short TOR's A9600261 (Re: Thatch)
 

Thatch wrote:

Hmmm, odd. I've not seen that, but if you got them, you got them. I can't imagine why they would be different shapes than stock though.



I think where you may be confused is the LONG tors have no shields with them because they use the same as stock. Shorts have the different shield so they come with them. I've had both long and short tors so this is from experience. I tried using the shields for the long pipes with the shorts once and they didn't fit right right. They will work, but If i recall correctly like someone else mentioned i think they scrape the muffler instead of floating about .25" above them.

 
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Posted : 08 Jan 2013 - 14:57   Post title : Re: Short TOR's A9600261 (Re: Thatch)
 
I have Short TORS with stock heat shields. No problem fitting them up, and they line up fine. Got the Short TORs second hand from a forum member.

 
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Posted : 08 Jan 2013 - 16:07   Post title : Re: Short TOR's A9600261 (Re: jov2002ca)
 

jov2002ca wrote:


Thatch wrote:

The heat shields are the same for the TORs. You don't get replacement shields when you buy the TORs.


I certainly got replacement heat sheilds when I ordered my short TORS. It was actually in the description of the TORS when I was reading about them on the dealers website (Triumph Cruiser accesories catalogue). And if If I'm not mistaken, this descripstion comes from Triumph.
Furthermore (and please do correct me if I'm wrong), I think new heat shields are required because I think the diameter of the short TORS gets bigger at a quicker rate (from front to back) then the long ones do.....Thus a new heat shiled is required


Correct, I got new shields with my short TORs.

 
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Posted : 08 Jan 2013 - 18:10   Post title : Re: Short TOR's A9600261 (Re: Thatch)
 

Thatch wrote:

The heat shields are the same for the TORs. You don't get replacement shields when you buy the TORs.


Beg to differ Thatch. I have sets for both and definitely different. Can forward picture if you want.

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Posted : 08 Jan 2013 - 21:29   Post title : Re: Short TOR's A9600261 (Re: BigNoseG)
 

BigNoseG wrote:

Hi all,

Does anyone know if the short TOR part# A9600261 will fit a TBird 1600, 2009. These are in an auction and the year they have come off is unknown (suggested a 2010). I have had a search around the web and can only find reference to the part number here, thanks:

Link


i bought my short tors for my 09 and transferred them currently on my 2011. no problem with fitting.

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Posted : 09 Jan 2013 - 03:02   Post title : Re: Short TOR's A9600261 (Re: zolti)
 
There are also long TORs that are the same size as stock. I'm sure the heat shields match up fine on those. Maybe that's what some people are referring to.....

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Posted : 10 Jan 2013 - 07:50   Post title : Re: Short TOR's A9600261 (Re: cnas122)
 
Thanks all,

Decided to give the item a miss, although the seller had said what some were saying here about not having a problem with the original heat shields, all the OEM ones I can find say:

Supplied complete with replacement exhaust gaskets & revised heat shield covers to match revised profile. Requires specific tune download.

Think I have found a set of new ones with all the above for not too much more.