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| | Rustopher | Set |  |  | Reg. Date | : | 26/10/2009 | Posts | : | 43 | Location | : | Gorham, Maine, United States |
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| Posted : 14 Mar 2010 - 18:15 Post title : Overloading the electrical system | | Does anyone know how much juice the electrical system draws? My wife and I are looking at adding some heated gear (along with the heated grips) and I wondered if the system could handle it. How many add-on accessories can the bike take?
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| | davetac1 | Thunderbird |  | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | Posts | : | 8,379 | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| Posted : 15 Sep 2010 - 21:23 Post title : Re: Overloading the electrical system (Re: Rustopher) | | The Bird's stator puts out 42 amps [504 watts]@ 2000 rpm and 45 amps [540 watts] @ 6000 rpm.So the max the stator will produce is 540 Watts at 6000 rpm. [Volts X Amps = Watts.] Your heated clothing is rated in wattage.Add up the total wattage used by your clothing and subtract that from the 504 Watts figure and that's what's left to run the bike at 2000 rpm.Naturally,as the rpm drops ,so does the wattage.In other words,two electrical suits,set on low using a thermostat which comes as an extra when ya buy the electric clothing, should work without over taxing your system.However,if the amount of the clothing's wattage exceeds what your stator's output is at 2000 rpm,then you won't be able to run two sets at idle,unless both sets are turned down low.And if you have driving lights,and or a bunch of other electrical accessories drawing power at the same time,you're gonna have to shut em off when running your electric clothing.What would ya rather have,warnth or a bunch of accessories running.lol I have the Gerbing electric clothing with the thermostat which I used on my last machine.But that system only put out 30 amps or 360 watts max.I was the only person using electric clothing and had to shut off my passing lamps in order to use the electric clothing at idle. But my old machine also only had a 30 amp stator.The T bird has 50% more power.When it gets cold,I'll be using my electric clothing on my new bird.That's when I'll be able to give ya a better idea of how the Bird's system works. Dave!!!
| Post edited by davetac1 on 15 Sep 2010 - 22:00 |
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| | CornerBanger | Jupiter |  |  | Reg. Date | : | 07/07/2010 | Posts | : | 1,113 | Location | : | Charleston, SC, United States |
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| Posted : 16 Sep 2010 - 02:13 Post title : Re: Overloading the electrical system (Re: Rustopher) | |
Rustopher wrote:
Does anyone know how much juice the electrical system draws? My wife and I are looking at adding some heated gear (along with the heated grips) and I wondered if the system could handle it. How many add-on accessories can the bike take? |
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I have the Gerbing Jacket and gloves with driving lights on and no issues. It was nice to ride to work last winter in 19 degrees and be very warm. Do it.
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| | davetac1 | Thunderbird |  | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | Posts | : | 8,379 | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| Posted : 17 Sep 2010 - 02:37 Post title : Re: Overloading the electrical system (Re: CornerBanger) | | I just looked all thru my shop manual but there is no break down of how many watts each component draws,other then the directionals which use 10 watts,when you're using em, and the headlight which uses the standard 55/60 watt bulbs [55 low beam,60 high beam].And that's it.Sorry I couldn't find anything more on the systems draw. Dave!!!
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| | EnGage | Thor |  |  | Reg. Date | : | 14/07/2009 | Posts | : | 3,155 | Location | : | Grand Rapids, MI, United States |
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| Posted : 17 Sep 2010 - 13:08 Post title : Re: Overloading the electrical system (Re: davetac1) | | Here's a chart that can be found in the instructions for either the Aux lights or heated hand grips that provides load information for those accessories:
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| | davetac1 | Thunderbird |  | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | Posts | : | 8,379 | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| Posted : 01 Oct 2010 - 23:48 Post title : Re: Overloading the electrical system (Re: EnGage) | | Monday of this week,I hooked up the wire leads to the battery and then the thermostat to those wire leads for my Gerbing electric clothing.I then started the machine and checked my available voltage at the battery.With only the essentials running,I had 14.1 volts at idle and 14.5 volts when the rpm was increased to 2000 or higher.I then connected all my electric clothing together,pants,jacket,gloves and socks,[165 watts total],and connected em to the thermostat.I then cranked the thermostat to full power.At idle,my charge rate dropped to 13.4 volts which should be enough to charge the battery and power the essentials,head,tail,and plate lights, speedometer,sensors, electric fuel pump,and ECU.When I increased the rpm to 1500 ,she jumped to 14.1 volts.When I increased the rpm to 2000 or higher,she jumped back up to 14.5 volts.Normally you don't run heated clothing at full power,otherwise you'll burn yourself.So as long as you don't run 2 sets of electric clothing at full power,shut off the passin lamps,if equiped,and or any other high wattage accessories,you should be able to run two sets of electric clothing without any problems and be nice and toasty.They are nice in the cold weather.I've had mine for ten years and I plan on being warm for the next ten years too. lol . Dave!!!
| Post edited by davetac1 on 02 Oct 2010 - 00:11 |
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| | DizzE | Thor |  |  | Reg. Date | : | 12/07/2010 | Posts | : | 3,141 | Location | : | Sunnyvale, CA, United States |
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| Posted : 02 Oct 2010 - 01:07 Post title : Re: Overloading the electrical system (Re: davetac1) | | nice work dave!!! That's one of the great things about this bike. In many aspects this bike is just built right. 3 bar fuel punp...it's in there already. I found that out researching new injectors. 3 bar is the standard test pressure so we don't need a boost pump.
I really need to start thinking about the best way to cram air without an airbox...another thread.
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| | davetac1 | Thunderbird |  | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | Posts | : | 8,379 | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| Posted : 02 Oct 2010 - 03:59 Post title : Re: Overloading the electrical system (Re: DizzE) | | Can you say"BLOWER" lol lol Dave!!!
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