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| | | Birdy68 | | Thor |  |  | | Reg. Date | : | 16/07/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,352 | | Location | : | Bad Zurzach, Aargau, Switzerland |
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| | Posted : 28 Nov 2012 - 08:05 Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Thatch) | | | Thatch wrote:
"This video is private" |
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Working on it... Hang in there!
Actually Joe - I was expecting you to say something like;
"HEY YOU! You float off away from the forum for months on end - then you come back and hijack my MM thread with fat Explorers!"
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| | | Thatch | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 24/06/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,655 | | Location | : | Savannah, GA, United States |
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| | Posted : 28 Nov 2012 - 08:07 Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Thatch) | | | sorry, was on my phone last night when I replied, I couldn't see the video (because it's private) but hate typing on my phone, so just made a quick reply.
Agreed on the weight issue. While I think the 1200 Tiger would be a great touring rig, and much better than doing some sort of Goldwing-esque sort of bike, taking it it off road would be a challenge for anyone, especially for a shorter legged individual. I've always thought your 800 was a better compliment bike to your bird than the 1200 would be Lee... especially for the type of riding you typically do.
As far as the choice of scrambler between Triumph and Morini is an interesting one. I would say they are similar in name only but that's not exactly true. They are both true 'scramblers' being that they are both street bikes that are made to take on some dirt. The difference being the Triumph pretending to be old at the same time and is therefore purposely hobbled by it's own 'retroness'. Now, it pays that back with style point I suppose, it just depends on if that is important or not. The only T Scramblers I've seen that looked capable on the dirt at all were heavily modified, they looked the business but probably had $3-4000 in suspension mods alone.
The Morini on the other hand is a modern bike. I was going to say thoroughly modern, but that's not really true. It is only as modern as it needs to be, top end parts, sport bike engine, and very little else. It is both modern and a throwback at the same time. No ABS or traction control, but every component are the brands people buy to upgrade their stock bikes up to. There is absolutely no question that the Morini is a better bike than the T Scrambler.
That said, better isn't always better for you (or anyone else). Just because a bike is faster, or lighter or more maneuverable, or even better made, doesn't mean it either fulfills the particular needs of any one person, or (more importantly) pushes that potential owners buttons. There is a sexiness to the T scrambler that is probably enhanced by it's lack of capabilities. Sometimes doing something with less is the draw, and I think that is what the T scrambler represents. A nice looking bike, with a retro style, that can play a bit in the mud and you can pull out the Belstaff jacket and pretend you're still young and cool.
My choice was built on a few key issues. 1. I think the Morini Scrambler is one of the best looking modern bikes available. 2. It doesn't just look good, it is good. 3. I like the unique and you'd be hard pressed to be more unique than a Morini. 4. It's just ridiculously light for it's size and powerful ... I couldn't fit on a T scrambler (comfortably) would of had to modify the Tiger 800 and any other 1200 is a good 100lbs more
As for hijacking my thread ... eh, any chance to find a chance to blather on about my Morini I'll take, even if I have to do so in the confines of a discussion on bloated adventure bikes. 
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| | | Thatch | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 24/06/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,655 | | Location | : | Savannah, GA, United States |
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| | Posted : 28 Nov 2012 - 09:07 Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Thatch) | | | Saw your reply by email, but not here (curious)...
Tell ya what Lee. Take the Morini out for a spin this weekend and let me know if you think they are too similar. 
I do honestly get the draw of the T scrambler though. I think part of it though for me is I just can't be a one brand owner. (though it would reduce the number of jackets, helmets and t-shirts I might have around here if I were)
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| | | Birdy68 | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 16/07/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,352 | | Location | : | Bad Zurzach, Aargau, Switzerland |
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| | Posted : 28 Nov 2012 - 10:48 Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Thatch) | | |
Thatch wrote:
Saw your reply by email, but not here (curious)... |
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Yeah... Where's my reply?
*goes off to see if I saved it as a draft...*
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| | | Birdy68 | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 16/07/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,352 | | Location | : | Bad Zurzach, Aargau, Switzerland |
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| | Posted : 28 Nov 2012 - 10:54 Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Thatch) | | |  
That's the thing you see... I have the Tigger - so getting the MM would be like ~ well ~ two too much the same! (does that make sense?)
The reason I'm drawn to the T Scrambler is purely the 'hacking and bobbing' side of it all - with the Belstaff Jacket and wot-not, it could look sexy.
The MM Scrambler is a SERIOUS work horse - undisputed. You just need to get some bullet proof side cases or an alternative and you'll be away.
Thing is, I've got my Tigger to do this work...
BUT - I really am looking forward to seeing, hearing, testing your MM this weekend and then share a bottle of whiskey while we define the perfect Scrambler together.
*Pss - it was a draft - so here it is*
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| | | Thatch | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 24/06/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,655 | | Location | : | Savannah, GA, United States |
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| | Posted : 28 Nov 2012 - 11:08 Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Birdy68) | | | Well part of the fun is finding "the motorcycle" or at least "the" next one. If won the lottery tomorrow I'd be shopping for new bikes tomorrow afternoon. You can't have too many and the vast majority have some merit to them. I can't think of a brand that doesn't have at least one bike that I'd like to have from their lineup. (It might take me a good long while to work down to some of those brands, but they're there.)
My problem with the T Scrambler is I'd have to turn it into one of the LSL Scramblers...
Now that, would make the decision a bit harder for me between the two.
Back to the Morini a bit ... did I tell you, that I've had some interesting experiences on the Morini. I've had crowds of people gather around me when I've stopped places on the War (hooligan) Machine. I've had bigger groups standing around asking about her than I've ever had on the bird. I was pretty surprised by that one actually. I doubt the situation would be the same back in the states, but for here, now it pulls more than the bird.
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| | | narsisco_lopez | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 09/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 2,765 | | Location | : | Golden (Showers!), Colorado, United States |
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| | Posted : 29 Nov 2012 - 00:13 Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Thatch) | | | Thatch wrote:
Back to the Morini a bit ... did I tell you, that I've had some interesting experiences on the Morini. I've had crowds of people gather around me when I've stopped places on the War (hooligan) Machine. I've had bigger groups standing around asking about her than I've ever had on the bird. I was pretty surprised by that one actually. I doubt the situation would be the same back in the states, but for here, now it pulls more than the bird.
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Well, since that Morini isn't even available here, I bet it would draw a crowd almost anywhere there are motorcycle enthusiasts (and probably non-enthusiasts!). I know it would turn some heads around these parts... especially among the local ADV crowd I've been hanging around lately... you'd have to put a Low-Jack on it!
While I got a fair amount of questions about the Thunderbird when traveling, I get much more on the 990A... probably those big-ass black tanks make it look like a Post-Apocalyptic zombie-cruncher.
Speaking of KTMs... anybody up in these parts seen the new KTM 1190?
The hard-core 950 guys are shitting all over it, but the specs look great and the Euro reviews are looking great so far.
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Other Bikes:
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Past Bikes:
2012 K13S
2009 KTM 990 Adventure
2010 Triumph Thunderbird 1600 (the Alien Queen)
2009 Triumph Sprint ST (another great bike!)
2007 Kawasaki ZX10R
2000 Kawasaki ZRX1100
1975 Honda SB550T "Clubman"
1981 Kawasaki KZ1000J
1985 Suzuki GS550E
1978 Yamaha 650 Special
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| | | Thatch | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 24/06/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,655 | | Location | : | Savannah, GA, United States |
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| | Posted : 29 Nov 2012 - 09:35 Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: narsisco_lopez) | | | Well that's the odd thing, is that it does seem to drawn non-bikers as well. I've seen old ladies checking out the Morini. Very odd. Of course the bird draws attention as well, and depending on the location it can draw more, but the Morini seems at least to draw the 'talkers'. People just have to ask about it.
I've read a bit about the 1190 and certainly it would be on my short list if I go out looking for a new big adventure. I would certainly choose it over the BMW without question. I'd probably pick it over the 1200 Tiger as well. If I could fit on the 800 Tiger better I'd take it over the bigger KTM. All in all it's a good offering and certainly a solid choice for a larger tourer. I wonder how much it will sway the big Beemer guys though. Most of that crowd are actually better off with the heavier bikes what with the vast majority of their miles being highway. Still, the 1190 is no lightweight, but it's better. I like that it's chain drive and it's power numbers are good (haven't hear any reviews yet) The slipper clutch is nice (got one of those myself) and if they have selectable power delivery (due to the throttle by wire) so you can tame the HP a bit off-road, that would be a big plus as well.
Back to the 'If I won the lottery' world... I'd certainly have one in my garage under those circumstances.
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| | | Birdy68 | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 16/07/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,352 | | Location | : | Bad Zurzach, Aargau, Switzerland |
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| | Posted : 29 Nov 2012 - 10:04 Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Thatch) | | | Thatch wrote:
...Of course the bird draws attention as well, and depending on the location it can draw more... |
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Like riding through a one way the wrong way ?
Thatch wrote:
...Back to the 'If I won the lottery' world... I'd certainly have one in my garage under those circumstances.... |
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But it looks like an Alien already.... BEFORE Narcotics has done anything with it!!!!
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| | | mat1600 | | Thunderbird | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 06/03/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,596 | | Location | : | Bridlington, Democratic Independant State of Yorkshire, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 29 Nov 2012 - 11:00 Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Birdy68) | | | Thought you may be interested in this little snippet -
Explorer News
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| | | narsisco_lopez | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 09/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 2,765 | | Location | : | Golden (Showers!), Colorado, United States |
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| | Posted : 29 Nov 2012 - 16:50 Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Birdy68) | | |
Birdy68 wrote:
But it looks like an Alien already.... BEFORE Narcotics has done anything with it!!!!
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Funny man 
So Lee, I saw the video above... looked fun. Still, I think you need to put that Tigger on a ship and come ride some "Real Men's" dirt here in Colorado and the west.  Just Canyonland's White Rim Trail alone would have you in fits of ecstasy!
EDIT:
Was in the mid-60s today so I played a bit of moto-hooky and took a little 120 mile "spin".
On Wigwam Creek road, stopped to survey part of the Hayman Fire burn area. 10 years later and it still looks like a nuke was dropped on it...
In the parking lot of Cheesman Lake (about another 4 miles uphill from those first 2 photos)...
Went out from US-285 from Pine, CO and came back via Deckers, CO on CO-67... about 20ish fun "noob" dirt road miles for me to pract-im-us with the big bike.
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Other Bikes:
2003 Suzuki DRZ400E (plated - my dual sport/mountain trail/camping bike)
Past Bikes:
2012 K13S
2009 KTM 990 Adventure
2010 Triumph Thunderbird 1600 (the Alien Queen)
2009 Triumph Sprint ST (another great bike!)
2007 Kawasaki ZX10R
2000 Kawasaki ZRX1100
1975 Honda SB550T "Clubman"
1981 Kawasaki KZ1000J
1985 Suzuki GS550E
1978 Yamaha 650 Special
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| | | Birdy68 | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 16/07/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,352 | | Location | : | Bad Zurzach, Aargau, Switzerland |
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| | Posted : 03 Dec 2012 - 18:03 Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: narsisco_lopez) | | | Hey Joe....
Did you know about this small?
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| | | Thatch | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 24/06/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,655 | | Location | : | Savannah, GA, United States |
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| | Posted : 03 Dec 2012 - 18:15 Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Birdy68) | | | I did actually. Pretty fun little video. I posted it up on facebook I believe. Still a shame about the paint options these days, but so glad they are back making the MM again.
So, Lee... now that you've been on the Morini. You'll have to share your opinion. Still think it's like the Tiger? 
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| | | Birdy68 | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 16/07/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,352 | | Location | : | Bad Zurzach, Aargau, Switzerland |
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| | Posted : 03 Dec 2012 - 19:14 Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Thatch) | | | Yeah sure!
It has a key, tank, two wheels and a seat.... Sure its like a Tiger.
Actually, nothing like the Tigger.
The throttle is - as we know - not for the weak hearted and definatly NOT for those with parkinson! VERY snappy... Would have you in trouble on the dirt.
But OMG what a lovely sound!
Solid as a bulldozer!
Real bullet proof!
And with a 1200 displacement, definatly good forvlong streches.
Been customizing one myself today. White body parts, red frame and black engine.
11'500.--
But they dont have the two tone colours :-(
Will have to keep an eye open (I know I should have grabbed the one you showed me)
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| | | Birdy68 | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 16/07/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,352 | | Location | : | Bad Zurzach, Aargau, Switzerland |
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| | Posted : 04 Dec 2012 - 07:23 Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Birdy68) | | | Here ya go - this is what I put together:
But I do wish they had kept the dual paint scheme and also the hard tank badge!
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| | | Thatch | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 24/06/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,655 | | Location | : | Savannah, GA, United States |
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| | Posted : 04 Dec 2012 - 07:38 Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Birdy68) | | | Customizing one eh?
You might check if the 2013 models come with the slipper clutch. I thought I read somewhere (perhaps it was the end of that video) that the new ones had the slipper. I'm not sure if that's stock or not.
As we discussed the "enthusiastic" throttle could be tames with a quick sprocket change if you were so inclined... or your riding buddies could just learn not to be behind you when you take off.
Shame we didn't get a picture of you on the scrambler, not to pick on your toe walking skills, but to get a better image of the size of the bike. With me on it, it looks pretty normal, but by itself it pretty imposing (albeit light) bike.
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| | | mat1600 | | Thunderbird | | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/03/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,596 | | Location | : | Bridlington, Democratic Independant State of Yorkshire, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 04 Dec 2012 - 08:40 Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Thatch) | | | It did mention the slipper . Is that M Morinis own engine ?
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| | | Thatch | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 24/06/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,655 | | Location | : | Savannah, GA, United States |
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| | Posted : 04 Dec 2012 - 09:17 Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: mat1600) | | | Well the slipper is a nice addition on the Scrambler. My bike was built by a Morini employee and he grabbed every option he could to build it (including some that aren't even scrambler parts or options). I wasn't sure if it had the slipper clutch or not so I had to do some tests on it (like down shifting hard and popping the clutch) and even with the knobbies on damp pavement I couldn't get the rear to lock up (something I do all too often on the bird). With the engine this thing has it would most certainly lock up without the slipper. So, $1000 option fitment confirmed. The fact that it is now standard is a nice benefit.
That is Morini's Bialbero CorsaCorta engine. (117 hp in the scrambler variant of the engine). It's a pretty impressive engine, not just on the power it puts out, but in the obviously thoughtful way it is put together. Why are you asking?
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| | | Thatch | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 24/06/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,655 | | Location | : | Savannah, GA, United States |
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| | Posted : 04 Dec 2012 - 09:37 Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Birdy68) | | |
Birdy68 wrote:
Here ya go - this is what I put together:
But I do wish they had kept the dual paint scheme and also the hard tank badge!
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Sweet. You know, if you were to pick up a new one. You'd need someone to go with you to the factory to pick it up .... I might know a guy.
BTW, the badges are available from here at least... Link
80 euro for the pair, not cheap but it was 60 for the bird...
BTW, here is a picture of that rear sensor we were talking about...
It looks like that is still there on the 2013 Anyone here know what it might be? (it's not ABS). Could it just be the speed sensor?
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| | | mat1600 | | Thunderbird | | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/03/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,596 | | Location | : | Bridlington, Democratic Independant State of Yorkshire, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 04 Dec 2012 - 10:29 Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Thatch) | | |
Thatch wrote:
That is Morini's Bialbero CorsaCorta engine. (117 hp in the scrambler variant of the engine). It's a pretty impressive engine, not just on the power it puts out, but in the obviously thoughtful way it is put together. Why are you asking? |
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For some reason I had it in mind it was derived from the Ducati engine, but re-cased to fit the Morini frame. 
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| | | fab | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/10/2009 | | Posts | : | 2,515 | | Location | : | wyong, nsw, Australia |
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| | Posted : 03 Jan 2013 - 05:26 Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: mat1600) | | | hey thatch,i was checking for different suppliers for brake pads for the tbird and it came up that your front brake pads on the scrambler is the same as the rear on the tbird.
you may want to check to make sure
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Remember, soft cocks hang around all life long, hard ones come and go
ahh f**k im deep
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| | | Thatch | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 24/06/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,655 | | Location | : | Savannah, GA, United States |
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| | Posted : 04 Jan 2013 - 12:10 Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: mat1600) | | |
mat1600 wrote:
For some reason I had it in mind it was derived from the Ducati engine, but re-cased to fit the Morini frame.
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Ah, had that been the case I wouldn't of had one. Ducati engines have to be the ugliest engines currently produced (one advantage the Diavel has in covering it up) combined with the dry clutch rattle I don't find them the least been endearing (with the exception of the high rev exhaust note) No, the Morini engine is a much better plant (for me at least)
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| | | Thatch | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 24/06/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,655 | | Location | : | Savannah, GA, United States |
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| | Posted : 04 Jan 2013 - 12:11 Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: fab) | | |
fab wrote:
it came up that your front brake pads on the scrambler is the same as the rear on the tbird.
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Thanks, that is helpful. I'd stock up, but with them being that common I think I'm set for availability (assuming the tbird doesn't go anywhere soon)
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