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Posted : 18 Sep 2012 - 10:18   Post title : Moto Morini Scrambler 1200
 
Well, I finally got the paperwork in on my new toy, got her tagged and out on the road for good yesterday. So, since I now have a bit more experience with the bike I thought I might now be able to actually give a bit more of a review....

First and foremost the bike is just brilliant. While the type of bike doesn't lend itself to being a jewel like bike, like the Thunderbird is (especially a freshly painted and customized one) overall the bike just oozes quality. Marzocchi forks, Brembo brakes, Ohlins shock, Excel rims, Zard exhaust and Verlicchi frame, all wrapped around the beautiful bialbero CorsaCorta 1187 cc power plant, make (for me at least) a pretty compelling bike before you ever even lift it off the side stand.

The dash is great with a big analog tach and large digital dash that gives everything from engine temp to outside temp, average speed, top speed, battery charge, gear selection, freeze warnings and of course time and odometer readings. Especially nice was the fact that after just a bit of investigation I found you could both switch the language and (more importantly at least for issue of exporting to the states) you could easily swap between miles and kms (as well as C and F) since that is one of the big changes that has to happen with European bikes to get them on the road in the US, that was a welcome discovery.

The bike itself is super easy to care for. There are access doors on the engine casing for things like filters and screens. Both hand and foot levers are adjustable and it's got a similar (probably the same) starter setup as a Ducati where a single push (and release) of the button sets the bike to work on starting itself. Beyond that, having the speedo upfront and an easy to use integrated steering lock built into the ignition were both nice additions. Of course with a bike that now weighs close to half the weight of the bird, I worry even more about theft now.....

Onto the actual riding bit.... Going from the bird to the scrambler is no small event. The bikes couldn't be more different. The scrambler is much shorter and much taller than the bird. With 120hp and about 90 lbs of torque (3.71 power to weight ratio ) the bike is a bit of a hooligan, eager to lift the front if you so choose but with the excellent fueling, a well mannered bike at slow speeds. I do find the maneuverability of the bike difficult to deal with in the first few minutes when I switch from one bike to the others, especially at slow speeds. Just thinking about taking a curve throws the bike over into a nice lean. Even with the knobbies the bike is very quick and stable in and out of the curves and rides so much differently than the bird that it takes some time to switch gears mentally. High speed finds the bike a bit flighty but that is due almost solely to the tire choice. I plan on switching to the Heidenau K60 Scouts soon so I can get a bit better road handling out of the bike but not loose the ability to hit the mud if I so choose as well.

In general I couldn't be happier. The only hiccup I've had was in trying to register the bike on base... apparently no one in the history of the US military in Europe has registered a Morini and therefore wasn't in the system at all. So, for now the scrambler is considered a 'home built' motorcycle as that was the only way to register it until they get the make into the database. Beyond that I get a very similar grin to that I get with the tbird, every time I open up the garage.

Here is a walk around video I did of the bike. I'll be swapping back to the stock exhaust probably later today...





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Posted : 18 Sep 2012 - 12:02   Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Thatch)
 
A fine looking beast indeed. Glad is was worth the wait. It looks to be a well engineered machine and rugged to boot.

What is the standing on reliability ?

 
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Posted : 18 Sep 2012 - 13:32   Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Thatch)
 
Well from us talking about it a while ago to finally having it in your hands must be a magic feeling.

What a superb fighting machine, Thatch.

Congratulations and may I say you have impeccable taste.


The Morini gang eh? hmm

 
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Posted : 18 Sep 2012 - 17:18   Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Bedouin)
 
What is the standing on reliability ?


Well I've done about 2 years of forum crawling to get all the info I can on the Scrambler and Granpasso and since all the Morinis share the same power plant there are a fair number of the 1187 bikes out there. There seems to be no consistent issues with any of the bikes. There are of course one off issues but the vast majority of reports I hear are that the bikes are pretty bullet proof. There is an English Morini owners group forum I hang out in and there are lots of long distance tourers (especially in the Granpasso section) and I see very little breakdown talk other than the standard (tires, battery, broken chain) type of stuff. We'll see but they seem as good as any bike being built today.


Bedouin wrote:

Well from us talking about it a while ago to finally having it in your hands must be a magic feeling.

What a superb fighting machine, Thatch.

Congratulations and may I say you have impeccable taste.


The Morini gang eh? hmm



Thank you much Thanassis. I was starting to think it would only be talk until this one came available. I looked long and hard at the Granpasso and nearly jumped on one or two of them but ultimately, as much as I liked them, they didn't move me like the Scrambler did. I ended up seeing a black and white scrambler all outfit with hard panniers and doing some long distance touring at the same time this bike became available and that was all she wrote.

I will be putting the stock exhaust back on the bike as soon as I track down some replacement heat shields as I just like the 1 into 2 stock exhaust. You might notice that the peg supports look a bit off, espeically in color. Well those are Granpasso supports and they drop the foot pegs a few inches which was a great addition for me. I'll pull them off and paint them to match at some point as well. Finally, I've got a second set of side panels and a fuel tank so I'm considering painting that set in stock colors so I can have a 'change of clothes' for the bike as well.

... and I think that Morini gang idea is a brilliant one. Birdy already wants a scrambler... I'll just needle him a bit more till he cracks.

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Posted : 18 Sep 2012 - 17:47   Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Thatch)
 
Thatch wrote:
I ended up seeing a black and white scrambler all outfit with hard panniers and doing some long distance touring ...


I'd very much like to see that kind of a setup ... any chance of a picture perhaps?




... and I think that Morini gang idea is a brilliant one. Birdy already wants a scrambler... I'll just needle him a bit more till he cracks.


Well, you know how excited he gets.

Vividly describe the adventure ... and then show him a picture of the bike.

 
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Posted : 19 Sep 2012 - 00:01   Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Thatch)
 
Great looking, and sounding bike Thatch!

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Posted : 19 Sep 2012 - 08:06   Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Bedouin)
 

Bedouin wrote:

I'd very much like to see that kind of a setup ... any chance of a picture perhaps?



No problem. It was luck that I ever found this. There was a 10 minute clip of the owners tour, all POV camera stuff and in the middle of the video was a 2-3 second shot of his bike. I was jumping through the video and just happened on it. I msg'd him and he gave me a bit of info on what he did and sent me some pictures.





Apparently they are hepco becker panniers on modified Granpasso racks. The rest are something like Kreiga bags or something.





Vividly describe the adventure ... and then show him a picture of the bike.



Well he supposedly already hates me because of the purchase... but then he's had his second toy for a good long while now. Stylistically the scrambler is much different than the 800xc but I wonder if functionally it's different enough for him to jump on. Hmmm... I will say having ridden both now the scrambler is an axe murderer compared to the XC. Yesterday I mistakenly started riding the Scrambler like the tbird and hammered it before the apex of a curve to pull myself through ... the resulting power wheelie was a bit unnerving and reminded me that there are more than footpeg placement differences in the 2 bikes.

Oh and just so I keep the info all (mostly) in one place. Here is a pic of the Scrambler and Bird together the day I got back from Italy.



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Posted : 19 Sep 2012 - 13:52   Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Thatch)
 

Thanks for the pics Joe ... nice war-hooligan machine.


You also now seem to have a very sexy combo of bikes ... both very cool in their own right.
I guess ... a happy man.

 
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Posted : 19 Sep 2012 - 16:20   Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Bedouin)
 
Congrats Thatch

That is a fantastic bike..... It's been the motivation for a Ducati M900 based "rain bike" project Ive been planning from back when you first posted it.

I am truly envious.

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Posted : 19 Sep 2012 - 23:16   Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: DC13)
 
Yup... she sure is a purdy thang! and makes my new (to me) DRZ400E look like a kid's toy

 
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Posted : 20 Sep 2012 - 15:01   Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: narsisco_lopez)
 
...war-hooligan machine...


Hmmm, I think she just got a new name..


makes my new (to me) DRZ400E look like a kid's toy


Yeah, but that thing will still climg up a tree if you want to... (not exactly a distance bike though)

Btw, is that thing rigged and tagged for the street or are you dragging it where ever you ride it?




Oh, and DC, I'd love to see that Duc. I've seen a couple 'scrambled' Ducs and they look the business. I've never cared much for the look of their engine (or the dry clutch chatter) but there's no arguing that they're not capable bikes.


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Posted : 21 Sep 2012 - 18:12   Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Thatch)
 
For me the choice is half that I have lots of spare 2v 900 duc parts that are take offs/spares for my SS. That and after working on my SS for years its an engine that I'm more familiar than I'd like to be. I have a line on a salvage title M900 that;s wasting away in a friends basement, with any luck i'll convince him to sell it to me over the winter.

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Posted : 02 Oct 2012 - 08:32   Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: DC13)
 
For those of you that were interested in what the 'circus bear on a bicycle' looks like with the Morini, my visiting father in law grabbed this shot of me yesterday.

Not completely ridiculous, but considering its a 1200, she does look a bit on the small size.





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Posted : 02 Oct 2012 - 12:46   Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Thatch)
 
Looking good man. I always knew bears could ride bikes... Expecting thieves in your neighborhood, that garage door looks mighty healthy.

 
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Posted : 03 Oct 2012 - 11:38   Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: CornerBanger)
 

CornerBanger wrote:

Expecting thieves in your neighborhood, that garage door looks mighty healthy.


It's Europe ... there are always (bike) thieves in the neighborhood. I had a friend recently get his brand new (as in less than 50kms on the bike) BMW GS1200 adventure stolen. It was covered and chained to a metal post in his backyard and they just walked off with it. With 2 high dollar motorcycles in the garage... ya, it's heavily locked up, doors and gates double locked, reinforcing poles in place, garage door openers unplugged, big dog inside the perimeter.... I'll not make it easy for them.

Really loving the Morini though. I took it out 2 days ago on a nice tear through the Taunus hills and thing is just so responsive. I do get caught trying to ride the Morini like the bird at times though and short shift the Morini a bit. I sometimes have to consciously let it rev up a bit more because of habits built up from the bird.... then other times I suffer the other fate of powering too hard out of corners, thinking it will just pull me out of the corner and instead I'm riding a unicycle around the corner. It doesn't take long though and I figure out what bike I'm on. I rode the bird for the first time in a week and that long away from the bird suddenly had me thinking it was sluggish to turn in. Turned out the front tire was low, aired it up and it was the old familiar ride again. They definitely both have their own strengths and weaknesses, and ultimately roles.



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Posted : 03 Oct 2012 - 13:24   Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Thatch)
 
I recently started getting back into dirt biking and in the desire to get good at it and be safe I starting looking for professional advice (books videos and such). Check out Gary Semics's (professional MX racer for 25+ years) site www.gsmxs.com for his videos and books. I ordered some videos and there are really good for improving off road/motocross riding skills and techniques.

 
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Posted : 03 Oct 2012 - 14:30   Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Thatch)
 
It looks fine, surprisingly so, for your beer-gutless frame....that helps. But, I imagined you as....taller.

I suppose it can lay over much farther than the bird. Is it as comfortable for a full day of riding.

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Posted : 03 Oct 2012 - 15:37   Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: DizzE)
 
Check out Gary Semics's site www.gsmxs.com for his videos and books.


I'll have to take a look. Thanks for the lead.



DizzE wrote:

It looks fine, surprisingly so, for your beer-gutless frame....that helps. But, I imagined you as....taller.


Yeah it doesn't look too small which I thought it might, but it doesn't exactly look like a 1200cc bike anymore either. (I can't imagine going smaller)

I suppose it can lay over much farther than the bird.


Most certainly. It's basically a Corsaro with a standard riding position, spoked larger wheels and knobbies ... thing will lean well beyond where I'm comfortable right now. Of course part of that is due to the knobbies. I plan on swapping these out for a pair of Heidenau K60 Scouts so I get a bit better road manners out of the tires without losing much on the dirt. (I'll keep these for more dedicated off-road stuff. I love the look of the knobbies and they do work surprisingly well on the road but give little confidence in the corners. I've heard good things about hte Heidenaus


Is it as comfortable for a full day of riding.


You know I don't know that yet but I suspect so. The seat is pretty comfy and with the standard riding position I'm not stretched one way or the other. I can stand up on the pegs whenever I want to get some relief and because of the big v-twin it's not buzzy at highway speeds. I'd be suprized if I couldn't cover just as much ground on the scrambler as I do the bird, at least comfort wise. I will say that the act of riding a bike like this is a more active pursuit. From shifting to cornering there more to it where the bird you can be a bit lazy with things. So, in that regard it might be a bit more taxing.


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Posted : 16 Oct 2012 - 07:31   Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Thatch)
 
I uploaded a few pics to my FB page, thought I'd go ahead and add them here in case anyone is interested....


I will say after owning the Morini for a while now, I grow more impressed with the bike as time rolls on. It's a brilliant bit of kit whose only fault seems to be the one controlling the thing. I've done a number of bonehead moves while absent mindedly trying to ride the scrambler like the bird. Wheelying out of corners, wheelying with a pillion, wheeling out of intersections, stop lights, boot sales ... (I"m beginning to think my wrist is binary affair, it's either forward or back) oh, and lets not forget drifting on knobbies.... all serve as a reminder to my slow moving brain that this is not a big heavy cruiser and the maniacal laughter and hooligan exploits while fun are perhaps not the best way to make it to your kids graduations. But it is undeniably fun.









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Posted : 16 Oct 2012 - 17:20   Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Thatch)
 
I see. Biting your own balls, at times, but....FUN.

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Posted : 16 Oct 2012 - 23:21   Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Thatch)
 

Thatch wrote:

Wheelying out of corners, wheelying with a pillion, wheeling out of intersections, stop lights, boot sales ... oh, and lets not forget drifting on knobbies....


Wasn't it a "war-hooligan" machine I called it in a previous post?
Having ridden it's brother the Gran Passo I just knew your otherwise calm temperament would ... ummm ... evolve.
Imagine drifting that baby on our mostly glass-like roads here eh.



 
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Posted : 17 Oct 2012 - 10:05   Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Bedouin)
 

Bedouin wrote:
Imagine drifting that baby on our mostly glass-like roads here eh.



Something like riding a drunk bull on an ice rink I would think.

Yeah, it can certainly be a mad ride. Funny thing is, it's actually a really easy bike to live with 'IF' you remember what bike you are riding at the time and aren't yourself in 'one of those' moods. However, step right off the bird, jump on the scrambler with a mind for tearing things up a bit ... and well, she'll play right along. Nice thing is it's such a good handling bike that it's never 'out of control' (even if I am a bit). Only really issue I have was once the knurling on the throttle grabbed my glove a bit and when I let off the throttle and pulled my hand back it grabbed and up we went again. That was a bit of a ball buster. Now, I should say, I'm not one wheeling it through town or anything, these are brief encounters with the world of the powered unicycle, not prolonged expeditions .... I kind of like having two wheels on the road.

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Posted : 17 Oct 2012 - 11:51   Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Thatch)
 

Thatch wrote:

Only really issue I have was once the knurling on the throttle grabbed my glove a bit and when I let off the throttle and pulled my hand back it grabbed and up we went again.


Ouch! That can be scary ... an unsolicited erection.
It's not exactly a light off-roader (but I am sure the monster engine compensates a lot for that ) ... how does it handle ... I mean, can you throw it around easily both on and off road?



 
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Posted : 17 Oct 2012 - 11:59   Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Thatch)
 
Yes but drifting and doing wheelies are so much fun.

 
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Posted : 17 Oct 2012 - 12:24   Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Bedouin)
 
The only issues that I've found with it off road is that of it being a bit too powerful. You can't work it like a GS 800 which because the GS is rather underpowered it doesn't tend to get squirrely on the loose stuff like the scrambler can. Now, that power can be a hell of a lot of fun if you are playing, but you have to consciously be a bit constrained on any right wrist application when off road (or on-road as I have discovered)

As for handling, the bike is very neutral and very easy to toss around. Of course I suspect my size doesn't hurt in making it so. But, I found no difficulty in getting the bike exactly where I wanted it in the moderate off-road work I've done. (I got to spend a bit of time in an off-road driving training area). Of course I won't say how well I did at picking the best place to go, but the bike followed my directions in spite of probably knowing better. While not a dirt bike the scrambler isn't too bad weight wise. It is almost exactly the weight of the GS800 (about 6lbs over the GS and about 12lbs under the Tiger XC) It also has a good 3" shorter wheelbase than the GS (2.5" less than the Tiger) which helps it a lot with it's agility and I think minimizes the lower clearance of the scrambler (about 1.5" less than the GS and .5" less than the Tiger). It'll never be a dirt bike but I don't see ever thinking twice about following any other dual sport off the road with it. I may not be up the the challenge but the bike will do it. Perhaps with a bit practice and maybe some training I'll be up for it too.

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Posted : 22 Oct 2012 - 10:32   Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Thatch)
 

Thatch wrote:

It is almost exactly the weight of the GS800 (about 6lbs over the GS and about 12lbs under the Tiger XC)


For a 1200cc motor that's superb!
One of the reasons for the existence of the GS800/Tiger XC segment for the adventure touring riders was exactly that ... the bigger GS etc. were too heavy off-road.
Although not precisely in the same category, the Morini could be modified into a neat adv. bike, with the added advantage of a bigger engine on longer rides.
Hooligan-War Machine-Adv. Touring-Hooligan.
Just me thinking out aloud.

P.S. The ONLY disadvantage I could see is the lack of a dealer network in case of a breakdown going across continent/s.

 
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Posted : 26 Nov 2012 - 15:42   Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Bedouin)
 
Bedouin wrote:
Joe wrote:
... and I think that Morini gang idea is a brilliant one. Birdy already wants a scrambler... I'll just needle him a bit more till he cracks.


Well, you know how excited he gets.

Vividly describe the adventure ... and then show him a picture of the bike.

I do I do I do!!!!
Actually - a Scrambler of one kind or the other is seriously on the table of discussion at the moment!
Triumph Scrambler - simply fun and ready to bob!
or
MM Scrambler - to be a bad boy and disturbe the piece and quite of Switzerland!






Bedouin wrote:
Thatch wrote:
It is almost exactly the weight of the GS800 (about 6lbs over the GS and about 12lbs under the Tiger XC)

For a 1200cc motor that's superb!
One of the reasons for the existence of the GS800/Tiger XC segment for the adventure touring riders was exactly that ... the bigger GS etc. were too heavy off-road.

And the Explorer too!!!
My friend slippy and smashed the front of his TiggerEX...





 
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Posted : 27 Nov 2012 - 14:54   Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Birdy68)
 

Birdy68 wrote:

... And the Explorer too!!!



Really Lee? (private joke folks )

 
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Posted : 27 Nov 2012 - 17:21   Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Bedouin)
 


Yup... So glad I have the 800 I can tell you!

Have a look right at the end of this - zoomed in:



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Posted : 27 Nov 2012 - 17:52   Post title : Re: Moto Morini Scrambler 1200 (Re: Birdy68)
 
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