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Topic : Well this post was going to start off 'life is good'
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 Oak 
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Posted : 09 Sep 2012 - 15:51   Post title : Well this post was going to start off 'life is good'
 
I have just had a great day riding round the Peak District all on my lonesome. Had my favourite local band on the Ipod (Evil Scarecrow), the sun was out and the views were like this:

Given the unreliability problems I've had, I was just starting to believe in the Bird again and then the bloody engine management light came on (again). Limped home and will have to take it to the dealers
Thought perhaps it was the mapping pipe again because the symptoms were similar, but no they were both connected. Runs fine when pulling over 2k rpm but no tickover at all (which was a nightame going through Matlock on a sunny Sunday) and pops ticks and misfires terribly when backing off the throttle.
If it were a TV less than 12 months old I'd be expecting a new one.

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 mat1600 
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Posted : 09 Sep 2012 - 20:04   Post title : Re: Well this post was going to start off 'life is good' (Re: Oak)
 
Just how much trouble have you had?

I would have thought they would have got over all these issues by now. Try telling them you want to reject the bike as it is not doing what it says on the tin. It is not fit for the purpose you purchased it for.

On the other hand it could be Derbyshire. Sean lives there and his bike died. My clutch cable snapped in Matlock, and now you and your troubles..........

Keep us up to date on the findings.




If it makes you feel any better (which it won't) I had 8 hours of solid bliss darting around the Nidd valley, Pateley Bridge etc. The bird was singing its sweetest song - even left the ear plugs out to capture the moments. Now you feel shit don't you. Sorry.

Hope all turns out ok.

 
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 edbob 
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Posted : 11 Sep 2012 - 19:33   Post title : Re: Well this post was going to start off 'life is good' (Re: mat1600)
 
I know how that can be. It's almost as bad as a cheating girlfriend... You want to find who is responsible and wring their neck for ruining your perfect day. Unfortunately, a bike doesn't exist that doesn't have problems associated with it in some way, shape, form, or nuimber. Hopefully an easy fix, and then time will heal. My prior bike was a Ducati - talk about a cheating girlfriend...

 
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 Oak 
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Posted : 13 Sep 2012 - 07:18   Post title : Re: Well this post was going to start off 'life is good' (Re: edbob)
 
Slightly embarassing. It was one of the the map/mapping pipes (whatever you call them). It was the one that you can barely see, up the front, under the tank. I knew it wasn't one of the three ends that you can see clearly but transpires I was looking at something else for the fourth (doh). Still, shouldn't have come off (again). The mechanic said that he had previously asked Triumph whether he could glue them on, or apply some other friction generating product but they said, 'no'. Has anybody else tried any measures to stop this happening?

With regards to faults so far (bought new in Nov, so garaged for a fair chunk of that):
4 x engine management light
2 x water leaks
water and corrosion in ECU causing electrical problems
Wheel bearing x2
Water ingress into instrument housing

Might be other things but I'm losing count.

Still, 'life is good' again. I must admit, if Triumph said to me, 'OK you can swap it for a brand new bike, any model', I'm not sure I'd want to.

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 SeanS 
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Posted : 13 Sep 2012 - 12:40   Post title : Re: Well this post was going to start off 'life is good' (Re: Oak)
 

Oak wrote:

Still, 'life is good' again. I must admit, if Triumph said to me, 'OK you can swap it for a brand new bike, any model', I'm not sure I'd want to.


I know the feeling. It was quite a difficult choice after all I'd done close to 24k miles on her and despite the hassles, the good memories out numbered the bad. Still it was an offer that I couldn't refuse, just hope the new girl will be more reliable.

Will still have a tear in eye when I say bye bye though. I don't like bike farewells, brings a tear to your eye.

Midge/Al/Big Steve.. Its one of those Bumblebee captured or Optimus Prime killed moments

Regards

 
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 RC65 
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Posted : 13 Sep 2012 - 14:13   Post title : Re: Well this post was going to start off 'life is good' (Re: Oak)
 

Oak wrote:

The mechanic said that he had previously asked Triumph whether he could glue them on, or apply some other friction generating product but they said, 'no'. Has anybody else tried any measures to stop this happening?


Fortunately, I haven't had the map sensor problem, but I've read several posts from those who have that they zip tie them. Some are even doing it as a proactive preventative measure.



 
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Posted : 13 Sep 2012 - 14:20   Post title : Re: Well this post was going to start off 'life is good' (Re: RC65)
 

RC65 wrote:


Oak wrote:

The mechanic said that he had previously asked Triumph whether he could glue them on, or apply some other friction generating product but they said, 'no'. Has anybody else tried any measures to stop this happening?


Fortunately, I haven't had the map sensor problem, but I've read several posts from those who have that they zip tie them. Some are even doing it as a proactive preventative measure.



Thanks mate, I'll give it a try. Apparently it's worse if you have TORs fitted

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Posted : 13 Sep 2012 - 18:18   Post title : Re: Well this post was going to start off 'life is good' (Re: Oak)
 
I had a friday afternoon Honda CBR1000 in the late eighties so I know how you feel when a bike breaks down regular despite your efforts to look after it.
I keep reading about Thunderbirds breaking down and keep crossing my fingers and touching wood that mine doesn't follow suit.
So far 5400 miles 27 months and no faults that cost any serious time or money and only three trips to the dealer, two for services and one for recall and short tor tune.
I have not had the covers pop off these pipes and I have had short tors and no cat for 2000 miles now.
However I have had the back wheel off three times to clean and re-grease when the chirping starts.

Before anyone tells me I need to get out more, I know 5400 miles is low for a 2010 bike but if I could get out more I would. I know most of the people on here are lucky enough to get lots more riding than I do, and of course more miles means more wear and opportunity to breakdown.

I will continue to cross fingers, touch wood, avoid ladders, walk in front of black cats and not look up when I hear large birds overhead, in the hope that all of our steeds can get the best reliability.

Thought... There must be an air line fitting or hydraulic hose adapter with a screw on blank that could be fitted easily into these pipes? Any reason why the present caps aren't restrained, are they a pressure release valve or are they just for pressure sampling at service?

 
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Posted : 13 Sep 2012 - 19:06   Post title : Re: Well this post was going to start off 'life is good' (Re: wizard)
 

wizard wrote:

I had a friday afternoon Honda CBR1000 in the late eighties so I know how you feel when a bike breaks down regular despite your efforts to look after it.
I keep reading about Thunderbirds breaking down and keep crossing my fingers and touching wood that mine doesn't follow suit.
So far 5400 miles 27 months and no faults that cost any serious time or money and only three trips to the dealer, two for services and one for recall and short tor tune.
I have not had the covers pop off these pipes and I have had short tors and no cat for 2000 miles now.
However I have had the back wheel off three times to clean and re-grease when the chirping starts.

Before anyone tells me I need to get out more, I know 5400 miles is low for a 2010 bike but if I could get out more I would. I know most of the people on here are lucky enough to get lots more riding than I do, and of course more miles means more wear and opportunity to breakdown.

I will continue to cross fingers, touch wood, avoid ladders, walk in front of black cats and not look up when I hear large birds overhead, in the hope that all of our steeds can get the best reliability.

Thought... There must be an air line fitting or hydraulic hose adapter with a screw on blank that could be fitted easily into these pipes? Any reason why the present caps aren't restrained, are they a pressure release valve or are they just for pressure sampling at service?


I have over 24k miles on my T-Bird 1600, and it really has been a great bike so far. No major issues to deal with. A few very minor incidents with a leaking coolant hose, but even then it was just a drop on the crank case from time to time that took several tries to track down. Other than that, just lots of tires.

 
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Posted : 13 Sep 2012 - 19:09   Post title : Re: Well this post was going to start off 'life is good' (Re: wizard)
 
It's too bad they made this MAP sensor issue so complicated. On the Rocket, they used flexible fairly thin walled rubber tubes which come out of the throttle bodies and connect to the sensor over barbed fittings. They couldn't come off unless you pulled them off. And it just sits right under the tank, which you can easily raise.

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Posted : 17 Sep 2012 - 02:05   Post title : Re: Well this post was going to start off 'life is good' (Re: Rev)
 
I got my 11'storm a couple mos ago with 2800 miles on her. I commute 40 miles each way daily, & knock on wood no troubles so far. the tire wear is disturbing tho. I was hoping for 12000 to 15000 between changes & the rental guys out here told me the only problem with the tbird is eating tires every 6000 miles. for me thats 3 mos!!!