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| | | daz | | Zeus |  |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,709 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 16 Aug 2012 - 23:44 Post title : To those with tors who've run with and w/o cat | | | How much louder is it really? Stupid question, i know. How do you answer it definitively? It's aural, this is text. But try and tell it best u can. I hate loud but considering elbows.
By the way, why are most of the tunes in the repository dead links?
| 2010 Blue/White Thunderbird, "Brutus". 1700 kit, short tors, gutted cat, UNI filter, filter seal off, custom tune. Brutus in his native habitat: Link
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| | | fab | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/10/2009 | | Posts | : | 2,515 | | Location | : | wyong, nsw, Australia |
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| | Posted : 17 Aug 2012 - 05:00 Post title : Re: To those with tors who've run with and w/o cat (Re: daz) | | | i don't think you will like it,i have heard 2 and both had different tunes and to me they sounded very raspy and hollow
if you can get a spare cat and gut it.sounds much deeper and not as loud.
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| | | daz | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,709 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 17 Aug 2012 - 05:40 Post title : Re: To those with tors who've run with and w/o cat (Re: fab) | | | Sounds like a good idea, tho at $660 list i doubt anyone will sell one dirt cheap. By the way, what pipes did they have? Tors have a small inside diameter so maybe they would be less loud and harsh then some others?
| 2010 Blue/White Thunderbird, "Brutus". 1700 kit, short tors, gutted cat, UNI filter, filter seal off, custom tune. Brutus in his native habitat: Link
| | Post edited by daz on 17 Aug 2012 - 05:48 |
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| | | mjgt | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 16/09/2011 | | Posts | : | 2,201 | | Location | : | North Somerset, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 17 Aug 2012 - 07:54 Post title : Re: To those with tors who've run with and w/o cat (Re: daz) | | | Talk to weasel, he has just fitted a cat bypass but still has the stock pipes, we downloaded the TOR tune into it yesterday evening. It was raining when he left my house to go home so he did'nt give a handfull but it was louder than stock and possibly a little louder than mine (short tors, filter and tune).
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| | | intimidator32 | | Chaac | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2012 | | Posts | : | 913 | | Location | : | lexington, ky, United States |
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| | Posted : 17 Aug 2012 - 10:44 Post title : Re: To those with tors who've run with and w/o cat (Re: daz) | | | daz, if you run a by-pass of the cat with the stock pipes and want a little more sound you can cutout the baffles. it takes some doing but it can be done and it makes the bird sound like a muscle car with turbo mufflers but it will pop on decal.
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| | | ThunderRat | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 08/03/2010 | | Posts | : | 1,056 | | Location | : | Castle Hill, NSW, Australia |
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| | Posted : 17 Aug 2012 - 12:41 Post title : Re: To those with tors who've run with and w/o cat (Re: daz) | | | Daz,
I had short tors without cat and had the popping dynoed out but it sounded wrong. I got rid of the tors and put on Foran pipes. Best sounding pipes on a TBird imo. The TORS sound too tinny and raspy with the cat removed but I never thought they sounded good from the start. It is personal and subjective.
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| | | daz | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,709 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 17 Aug 2012 - 13:50 Post title : Re: To those with tors who've run with and w/o cat (Re: ThunderRat) | | | Well, i'm kinda stuck here then i suppose. I prefer the short tor look over the stock look in a very big way. And there are few after market pipes i like at all. I don't mind a bit of change, but the difference to my eye is big. Plus if i did this the only tune i could use to take advantage of it power wise is dizze's, and his was developed with short tors. The stock pipes would be a great way to do this if i could deal with the look, tho i'm not sure how that tune would work for stock pipes W/O cat. I wonder what could be done with them if you cut them short like the short tors tho. Someone posted a drawing of the internals. Could be at the short lengths they'd sill have 1/2 the baffling left. Might have to do some welding. Anyone remember where that drawing is?
| 2010 Blue/White Thunderbird, "Brutus". 1700 kit, short tors, gutted cat, UNI filter, filter seal off, custom tune. Brutus in his native habitat: Link
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| | | silverfish | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 23/03/2012 | | Posts | : | 191 | | Location | : | Joburg, South Africa |
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| | Posted : 18 Aug 2012 - 04:07 Post title : Re: To those with tors who've run with and w/o cat (Re: daz) | | | I have short tors and decided to go the catless elbow route and I hated it. Way to loud and raspy. I eventually gutted the cat and reinstalled that. Sound is now deep and loud but not obnoxious.
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| | | daz | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,709 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 18 Aug 2012 - 18:32 Post title : Re: To those with tors who've run with and w/o cat (Re: silverfish) | | | Has anybody thought of gutting the cat, then packing it with something (maybe that very course metal wool used for dishes) that would allow tors and not be so loud as a gutted cat even? I'd like to eliminate the elements in the cat if for no other reason than to stop worrying about the cat clogging if i'm rich or just from deposits over time. And at the same time i'd like a little noise reduction so it's not as loud as a empty cat but it would be a bit louder than the full on cat and less restrictive. This way i'd have my shorties i love, no worries about the elements in the cat, better tone that doesn't sound congested, and the ability to run dizze's catless tune for a bit more grunt. By the way, again, why are the links to the tunes in the repository not working?
I've been thinking of doing this. Cut a rectangular area out of it as in those pics someone posted here, but instead of making a flap and then bending it back and welding it, cut a full square out completely. The get a piece of sheet metal about 1/2" bigger on all 4 sides and use a gasket or sealer and screw i on so it can come off any time for adjustment or repacking if you want to try a different type or amount of packing. If anyone has any ideas on doing this speak up. I'm not sure how i'd pack it, as i wouldn't think fully packing it would be as restrictive as the cat elements. Tho if i only partially pack it i'd have to somehow hold it in place, maybe with some sort of screen or such. Also, if this didn't work out like i hope, anyone know if the cat elements could be replaced, of are they secured in a way that you'd have to break things to remove them and it would be hard or impossible to replace? The pics i saw looked like they were strapped in and the straps had to be broken, but not sure.
| 2010 Blue/White Thunderbird, "Brutus". 1700 kit, short tors, gutted cat, UNI filter, filter seal off, custom tune. Brutus in his native habitat: Link
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| | | mjgt | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 16/09/2011 | | Posts | : | 2,201 | | Location | : | North Somerset, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 19 Aug 2012 - 09:01 Post title : Re: To those with tors who've run with and w/o cat (Re: daz) | | | If you are thinking of going to that much trouble why not made a baffle to fit into the box to delect the gas from going straight through. That way there is nothing to move or clog, there is no restiction but the gas will be slowed down a touch increasing back pressure a little which should also deepen the tone.
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| | | daz | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,709 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 19 Aug 2012 - 14:07 Post title : Re: To those with tors who've run with and w/o cat (Re: mjgt) | | | I suppose. I just have no idea which will work best or how to implement either. I mean, there are a million ways to position baffles or wool and how much to use. I hate the thought or trial and error because every time i tried to adjust things it would require removing the tors and the cat, a time consuming tedious procedure if i had to do it numerous times. I suspect i will never get around to trying this even tho i know it would be exactly what i want if i get it just right for my desired result.
| 2010 Blue/White Thunderbird, "Brutus". 1700 kit, short tors, gutted cat, UNI filter, filter seal off, custom tune. Brutus in his native habitat: Link
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