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| silverfish | | Set |  |  | | Reg. Date | : | 23/03/2012 | | Posts | : | 191 | | Location | : | Joburg, South Africa |
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| | Posted : 27 May 2012 - 05:38 Post title : Summer screen V's Mid size screen ? | | | I currently have the Triumph summer screen fitted and find that at higher speeds my head takes a beating from the turbulent air coming off the screen. Hits the helmet at eye level.
I have an opportunity to buy the mid size screen from a fellow RAT member. I am 5'11" (1.8m) tall with a 34" inseam. Is there anyone here that has tried both and what are your findings.....Is it worth getting?
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| ray548 | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 09/02/2010 | | Posts | : | 299 | | Location | : | sylmar, CA, United States |
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| | Posted : 27 May 2012 - 06:12 Post title : Re: Summer screen V's Mid size screen ? (Re: silverfish) | | | I am 5'9" and have only used the mid size. I do get some wind on the face, but it does not bother me. If I go on long trips I use the Nolan 30 helmet with face screen. Hopes this helps, I don't like the tall screens, they are too big.
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| Eskerinola | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 23/03/2011 | | Posts | : | 108 | | Location | : | Argentina |
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| | Posted : 27 May 2012 - 14:06 Post title : Re: Summer screen V's Mid size screen ? (Re: ray548) | |
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| silverfish | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 23/03/2012 | | Posts | : | 191 | | Location | : | Joburg, South Africa |
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| | Posted : 28 May 2012 - 05:49 Post title : Re: Summer screen V's Mid size screen ? (Re: Eskerinola) | | |
Thanks guys!
The link give some good idea's but I'm not wanting to go that far. I actually took the bird out yesterday with the mid screen and I'm still getting nailed on the head. Except now it's a little higher. I'm not sure that it's worth me forking out the dosh for it.
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| heartrok | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 23/05/2012 | | Posts | : | 8 | | Location | : | Knoxville, Tennessee, United States |
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| | Posted : 28 May 2012 - 15:32 Post title : Re: Summer screen V's Mid size screen ? (Re: silverfish) | | | I have the midsize screen. It takes a lot of the wind off my body, but I still get a bit to my face and helmet...especially at 55+ MPH. I find it tolerable though. I don't like the look of the taller screen so I'd rather deal with a little more wind. Actually, I think the passenger gets the worst of it. The airflow seems to hit them harder due to the higher seating position. --TIM
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| feduke | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 11/08/2009 | | Posts | : | 2,441 | | Location | : | Daytona Beach, Florida, United States |
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| | Posted : 28 May 2012 - 15:45 Post title : Re: Summer screen V's Mid size screen ? (Re: heartrok) | | | I'll stay with the full size screen in Florida. With the size of our bugs a hit in the face can cause SERIOUS damage.
Rather than buying another screen, these people make a much better replacement for far less money. The holes are drilled and fit right onto the Triumph bracket you already have. It is polycarbonate rather than plastic, MUCH better quality and you can get just about any size you want, and even a choice of tints.
If you get one, pay close attention to where the little washers go when you take the old screen off!
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| Eskerinola | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 23/03/2011 | | Posts | : | 108 | | Location | : | Argentina |
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| | Posted : 28 May 2012 - 20:11 Post title : Re: Summer screen V's Mid size screen ? (Re: feduke) | | | Hi feduke;
According to Cee Baileys site, their w/shield is made of acrylics as opposed to the stock one made of polycarbonate+Quantum, this last one 20 times more resistant than acrylics. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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| feduke | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 11/08/2009 | | Posts | : | 2,441 | | Location | : | Daytona Beach, Florida, United States |
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| | Posted : 28 May 2012 - 21:19 Post title : Re: Summer screen V's Mid size screen ? (Re: Eskerinola) | | |
Eskerinola wrote:
Hi feduke;
According to Cee Baileys site, their w/shield is made of acrylics as opposed to the stock one made of polycarbonate+Quantum, this last one 20 times more resistant than acrylics. Please correct me if I'm wrong. |
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Well isn't my face red!  You're absolutely correct. The Cee Bailey shields are 187 grade aircraft acrylic. That's what I had on my aircraft and what all the aircraft manufacturers use, so it isn't bad stuff. I never had a problem with mine that cruised anywhere from 125 to 220 kts,so it must hold up pretty well. Polycarbonate is great stuff, but I'd tend to wonder what "20 time more resistant" means? As good as it is, that sounds like a stretch if it means to scratching. I think they are talking about taking a hit and breaking? I hit a couple of Florida turkey buzzards ,that are pretty damn big birds, at over 150 kts and my acrylic windshield didn't break. It fractured, but I think anything but bullet proof glass would fracture too.
I've had mine a couple of months now and it's nice and clear and a bit thicker than the stock shield. I also like the fact that they will make it to most any measurements you want and have different degrees of tint, if you so desire. The fit was absolutely perfect too. I was pleasantly surprised that the holes were aligned so well.
Sorry for the confusion.
I've been to Argentina and it's a beautiful place. I'd love to ride around Bariloche. 
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| davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 28 May 2012 - 21:38 Post title : Re: Summer screen V's Mid size screen ? (Re: feduke) | | | I bought a Cee Bailey's wind screen this past Feb.It's two inches higher and two inches wider and,as mentioned,is thicker then Triumph's shield. They all come two inches wider,and you can get em the stock height,22 1/2 inches from the top of the head light cut out to the very top of the shield,OR,depending on how tall or long wasted you are,you can get em 2,4,or 6 inches higher then stock.And ,they're about a third of the price that Triumph sells theirs' for. I'm happy with mine!! Dave!!!
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| Eskerinola | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 23/03/2011 | | Posts | : | 108 | | Location | : | Argentina |
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| | Posted : 28 May 2012 - 22:13 Post title : Re: Summer screen V's Mid size screen ? (Re: feduke) | | | Feduke;
Argentina is a nice country filled with (very) crooked people called argenitinians.
I recon it's more important the effect of the larger dimensions of the Cee Bailesy's than the fact that policarbonate is tougher. I have a LIP made of acrylics (the one you can see in the link above) which is not even as good as the aeronautical type and works OK.
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| silverfish | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 23/03/2012 | | Posts | : | 191 | | Location | : | Joburg, South Africa |
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| | Posted : 29 May 2012 - 05:47 Post title : Re: Summer screen V's Mid size screen ? (Re: Eskerinola) | | |
Eskerinola wrote:
Feduke;
Argentina is a nice country filled with (very) crooked people called argenitinians.
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Sounds just like South Africa! 
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| silverfish | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 23/03/2012 | | Posts | : | 191 | | Location | : | Joburg, South Africa |
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| | Posted : 29 May 2012 - 15:34 Post title : Re: Summer screen V's Mid size screen ? (Re: silverfish) | | | Well I bought it. Unfortunately I cannot pass a good deal off. Paid 153.00 quid / $250.00 for it including all quick release hardware.
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| Navyboy | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 10/11/2012 | | Posts | : | 4 | | Location | : | United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 10 Nov 2012 - 08:01 Post title : Re: Summer screen V's Mid size screen ? (Re: silverfish) | | | Silverfish
What size did you go for and how have you got on with it?
Thanks.
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| cnas122 | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 17/10/2012 | | Posts | : | 85 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 10 Nov 2012 - 20:01 Post title : Re: Summer screen V's Mid size screen ? (Re: Navyboy) | | | When is someone going to make a decent screen specifically for the Storm (I have a switchblade deflecctor which does nothing). I'm about to have one custom made based on the switchblade mounts......
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| fishy | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 15/09/2012 | | Posts | : | 440 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 10 Nov 2012 - 21:52 Post title : Re: Summer screen V's Mid size screen ? (Re: feduke) | | | I guess I'm +3 on the Cee Bailey's-I'm extremely happy with mine 1" taller than the stock roadster screen which I think makes mine 23 1/2" tall. I'm 5'10" and with the bigger lowers I'm in calm air heaven now. I have had in order the summer, mid and roadster screen and all drove me mad. The Dart Fly screen is amazing and there is no buffetting save what your helmet has.
One word of caution: the Cee Bailey as well as the Triumph Screen is designed for 5 inch pound of tq. NOT FOOT but inch. It's the force needed to open a plastic water bottle.
Take great care to keep track of the stock screen mounting hardware as to where the washer and spacer go. I took a sheet of paper and taped the parts in order to where they went.
EDIT_ I think that a lot of the buffeting that I experienced was coming from the bottom of the shield and the bigger lowers really helped a lot even with the summer,mid and roadster or even no screen. They made a huge difference
Also do not ever use Red Locktite on your plastic screens. It will crack and craze the holes DAMHIK.
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| Dougl | | Chaac | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 13/07/2012 | | Posts | : | 544 | | Location | : | Reno, Nevada, United States |
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| | Posted : 11 Nov 2012 - 23:27 Post title : Re: Summer screen V's Mid size screen ? (Re: fishy) | | |
fishy wrote:
I guess I'm +3 on the Cee Bailey's-I'm extremely happy with mine 1" taller than the stock roadster screen which I think makes mine 23 1/2" tall. I'm 5'10" and with the bigger lowers I'm in calm air heaven now. I have had in order the summer, mid and roadster screen and all drove me mad. The Dart Fly screen is amazing and there is no buffetting save what your helmet has.
One word of caution: the Cee Bailey as well as the Triumph Screen is designed for 5 inch pound of tq. NOT FOOT but inch. It's the force needed to open a plastic water bottle.
Take great care to keep track of the stock screen mounting hardware as to where the washer and spacer go. I took a sheet of paper and taped the parts in order to where they went.
EDIT_ I think that a lot of the buffeting that I experienced was coming from the bottom of the shield and the bigger lowers really helped a lot even with the summer,mid and roadster or even no screen. They made a huge difference
Also do not ever use Red Locktite on your plastic screens. It will crack and craze the holes DAMHIK.
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This screen looks like the bomb! The extra width is exactly what's needed.
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| EnGage | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 14/07/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,155 | | Location | : | Grand Rapids, MI, United States |
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| | Posted : 12 Nov 2012 - 18:14 Post title : Re: Summer screen V's Mid size screen ? (Re: Dougl) | | | I purchased a Cee Bailey's in September - the one that is 2" taller than the roadster. I like this screen for cooler weather riding and it does buffet less (for me anyway). I cut my Roadster screen down to a summer screen and that buffets less than the full-height Roadster as well.
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| Dougl | | Chaac | | | | Reg. Date | : | 13/07/2012 | | Posts | : | 544 | | Location | : | Reno, Nevada, United States |
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| | Posted : 13 Nov 2012 - 00:13 Post title : Re: Summer screen V's Mid size screen ? (Re: EnGage) | | | I had just about every screen made on my Rocket. The only thing that reduced buffeting was a 2" wider Clearview with Triumph lowers. I suspect that since the TBird is lower than the Rocket and its radiator and tank are much smaller, the 2" wider Cee Bailey will do the trick. Clearview has no plans for a screen for the T-Bird.
As far as the Storm goes, my dealer suggested the Windvest. I had one on my Rocket and while it's a really good screen, it didn't eliminate turbulence. If you get the widest model it would probably be equivalent to the t-bird roadster screen.
As far as height goes, you should be able to look over the screen and see the ground 50 ft in front of the bike. At this height, the wind is going over your head. Any buffeting you feel is caused by turbulence - vortices coming around the sides or from below.
BTW, if acrylic screens work on aircraft, they're more than adequate for motorcycles.
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