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| Steve | | Set |  |  | | Reg. Date | : | 24/03/2011 | | Posts | : | 480 | | Location | : | Chesham, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 24 Jun 2011 - 17:39 Post title : Fitting Triumph bags to easy brackets | | | More saddlebag stuff.
I have the back rest, instructions say remove the back rest. Hah, another quick release that isn't. You can do it without moving the backrest anyway but it eventually came loose after all the bolts had been loosened. The posts went on no problem and the bracket slips on and sits firmly in place.
My question relates to attaching the Triumph saddle bags to the easy bracket. The hard plastic wall of the saddle bags that attaches to the original mounting bracket isn't flat, it has insets to allow the boltheads inside the bags to be in a recess. I suppose this will help to stop stuff snagging when you put it in. The insets from the other side stick out and stop the bag wall sitting flush with the easy bracket plate. As the holes in the easy bracket aren't in the same place as the Triumph holes I will need to drill some new ones.
Has anybody fitted these together?
How did you space out the gap?
I'm sure I could find a way but it would be easier to learn from someone else's efforts. Suggestions most gratefully accepted. 
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| Sergio | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 17/05/2011 | | Posts | : | 82 | | Location | : | Marostica, VI, Italy |
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| | Posted : 24 Jun 2011 - 20:26 Post title : Re: Fitting Triumph bags to easy brackets (Re: Steve) | | | Sorry ... are we talking about this?
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| Steve | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 24/03/2011 | | Posts | : | 480 | | Location | : | Chesham, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 24 Jun 2011 - 22:21 Post title : Re: Fitting Triumph bags to easy brackets (Re: Sergio) | | | In a way.
That looks like the standard Triumph bracket. I am trying to replace that mounting kit with the easy bracket ones which allow you to unlock and remove the bags.
So right bags but wrong mounting kit.
I think I need pictures, I'll get some in the morning.
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| Sergio | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 17/05/2011 | | Posts | : | 82 | | Location | : | Marostica, VI, Italy |
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| | Posted : 25 Jun 2011 - 06:57 Post title : Re: Fitting Triumph bags to easy brackets (Re: Steve) | | | Yes, I have all standard Triumph. Post some pics, it's a good idea 
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| Domino | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 29/08/2010 | | Posts | : | 230 | | Location | : | Portsmouth, Hampshire, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 25 Jun 2011 - 09:03 Post title : Re: Fitting Triumph bags to easy brackets (Re: Sergio) | | | I've just ordered some of these Easy Brackets from Fast Eddy so I've got this fun to come. Some good pics could come in handy. 
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| Steve | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 24/03/2011 | | Posts | : | 480 | | Location | : | Chesham, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 25 Jun 2011 - 14:23 Post title : Re: Fitting Triumph bags to easy brackets (Re: Domino) | | | OK got some photos
Original bags sit like this:
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Take that bracket off and mount posts:
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New easy brackets slot and lock:
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Here is the problem. I've inset the original in line with where it sits. You can see that the holes are in different places, the original sitting almost in the centre of the bracket while the easy bracket ones are more towards the front of the bike.
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Only thing is the back of the panniers aren't flat.
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The concave recesses on the back stick out and the cut away for the springs is probably going to be in the way. I don't think this is a simple drill some holes and bolt it on job. I'm going to need at least some sort of spacer to bring the holes that miss the raised part on the bags level, if not make up a bracket if I can't get them positioned properly.
I was hoping someone had resolved this before me and had some suggestions. I've not investigated exactly where the holes will need to be to make the bags sit right.
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| Domino | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 29/08/2010 | | Posts | : | 230 | | Location | : | Portsmouth, Hampshire, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 27 Jun 2011 - 09:58 Post title : Re: Fitting Triumph bags to easy brackets (Re: Steve) | | | Hmmm 
How about redrilling the front 'upper' support hole in the upper prominence/recess of the pannier - as far forward as possible. Then redrill the rear upper support hole in the easy bracket, to align with the existing rear upper hole in the pannier (you could use the existing upper rear easy bracket hole and drill the pannier instead but I'd prefer to keep these support points as far apart as possible to spread the load). It should be possible to then redrill the 'lower' support holes, in the lower easy bracket plate, to use the pannier's existing lower support holes.
Even so, it looks as though the panniers are going to have to sit an inch or two forward of their standard position and perhaps half an inch higher. Let's hope it doesn't spoil the look or interfere with the pillion's comfort.
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| EnGage | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 14/07/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,155 | | Location | : | Grand Rapids, MI, United States |
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| | Posted : 27 Jun 2011 - 13:40 Post title : Re: Fitting Triumph bags to easy brackets (Re: Domino) | | | I don't have a sissy bar, so my Easy Brackets mount on the back two bolts. In that configuration, the tops two bolts can be used as is.
You might search a bit as I think there are pictures posted of your configuration
Edit: At the bottom of page 1 is a picture of the Easy Brackets on the forward bolts, but with aftermarket bags: Link
I think you need to see if the bags will be far enough back if the top holes on the bag are drilled at the forward most part of the protrusion.
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| Steve | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 24/03/2011 | | Posts | : | 480 | | Location | : | Chesham, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 27 Jun 2011 - 18:21 Post title : Re: Fitting Triumph bags to easy brackets (Re: EnGage) | | | Thanks guys.
I just bolted the easy bracket through the top two holes in the bags and tried it out. It's not too bad, pushes the bags forward a bit but not enough to get in the way of the pillion or the shocks. Seems to have enough clearance all around.
I need the spacing for the key as it's awkward to get at, as you said. I just used the easy bracket bolts and washers but I think the triumph kit washers will be better as they have sleeves that fit through the larger hole and make it a better fit.
So I will drill the bottom holes in the bracket to line up with existing holes and it should be good.
It's not as bad as I first thought it would be, probably be next weekend before I get round to it. Will post some pictures when its done.
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| Domino | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 29/08/2010 | | Posts | : | 230 | | Location | : | Portsmouth, Hampshire, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 18 Jul 2011 - 18:51 Post title : Re: Fitting Triumph bags to easy brackets (Re: Steve) | | | Okay, here's what you get in the kit...
The bag on the left contains the keys, bobbins and replacement bolts. The bag on the right contains 8 each of the screws, washers and nyloc nuts to attach the panniers to the easy-brackets.
Right side bobbins fitted (EDIT: I should point out here that the inner bobbins are for the OEM backrest which I've removed for clarity)...
Below, the left pannier is attached using the original Triumph brackets whilst the right pannier is attached via the easy-brackets using just the top 2 screws in the original holes. It's so far forward it's actually touching the seat.
Height is pretty much the same but being further forward the right pannier gives the illusion of being higher.
Some more comparison shots...
I drilled new 10mm holes as far forward as possible by marking the hole in a washer that was placed as far forward as it would go in the recess...
Then, with the aid of masking tape, marked the lower holes on the easy-bracket...
Drilled out to 10mm, deburred and touched up with a bit black car spray paint (the rough edges are where the spray paint has reacted slightly with the edge of the plastic coating on the easy-bracket).
Fitted bracket to pannier and it's good to go.
I'll keep an eye out for leaks and seal with silicone-sealant or something later if necessary.
Still an inch or so forward of standard but acceptable I think.
At least it clears the saddle now.
Hope this helps. 
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| Ted | | Chaac | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 14/06/2010 | | Posts | : | 551 | | Location | : | March, Cambs, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 19 Jul 2011 - 07:39 Post title : Re: Fitting Triumph bags to easy brackets (Re: Domino) | | | As I await the delivery of my Easy Brackets; I'm very grateful for the efforts of the contributors, particularly Steve's.
It'll be a pice of cake now
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| Steve | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 24/03/2011 | | Posts | : | 480 | | Location | : | Chesham, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 19 Jul 2011 - 12:50 Post title : Re: Fitting Triumph bags to easy brackets (Re: Ted) | | | Still not had time to finish this as I am moving soon, but at least I'll have a garage to work in now.
I didn't think they were so far forward but I only had a quick look. I guess I'll have to drill some holes too, otherwise risk damaging the seat, or pannier, or both.
Did you space out the pannier to give more room to get at the key?
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| Domino | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 29/08/2010 | | Posts | : | 230 | | Location | : | Portsmouth, Hampshire, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 19 Jul 2011 - 13:09 Post title : Re: Fitting Triumph bags to easy brackets (Re: Steve) | | | No I didn't use any spacers. The key is close but there is enough room - it's designed to only turn through 45 degrees anyway.
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| EnGage | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 14/07/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,155 | | Location | : | Grand Rapids, MI, United States |
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| | Posted : 19 Jul 2011 - 22:05 Post title : Re: Fitting Triumph bags to easy brackets (Re: Domino) | | | Nice write-up domino. You should copy your pictures/instructions to the how-to section. We have the esay bracket without the sissy bar there, but not with the sisy bar.
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| Domino | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 29/08/2010 | | Posts | : | 230 | | Location | : | Portsmouth, Hampshire, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 20 Jul 2011 - 07:42 Post title : Re: Fitting Triumph bags to easy brackets (Re: EnGage) | | |
EnGage wrote:
Nice write-up domino. You should copy your pictures/instructions to the how-to section. We have the esay bracket without the sissy bar there, but not with the sisy bar.
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Done.
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| Mars | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 06/04/2012 | | Posts | : | 5 | | Location | : | Luxembourg |
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| | Posted : 22 Apr 2012 - 18:51 Post title : Re: Fitting Triumph bags to easy brackets (Re: Domino) | | | Finally I got my brackets and started the procedure as fantastasiacally described(many thanks for this).My Triumph bags fit like they have to.
I used 5mm spacers on the upper holes to match the angle with the lowers,no strain...and better key access+a bit more clearance with the Longhaul driver seat.
By drilling the new upper holes you can choose if you want to slightly rise or lower the bags but that is not that important.
What I think is important is to fit the brackets with silicone and to close the open holes in the panniers with some rubber stuff (automotive??)
I made some real bad weather rides with the panniers and was surprised by the ways mud and water take,specially behind the panniers..
Anyway,thanks again
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