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 davetac1 
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Posted : 29 Sep 2010 - 21:12   Post title : passin lamps
 
Gentlemen:I have a question for you guys that are using the factory Triumph passing lights.On the handle bars,above the high/low beam switch,is another light switch which I believe is for the accessory passing lamps or whatever you wanna hook up.Is that switch already wired into the system?? If so,where are the wires located that connect to the accessory passing lamps?? Are they in the headlight housing or do you have to add wires for this purpose??I haven't really looked into it which is why I'm asking.I'm just gettin lazy in my old age,I guess. lol lol

One more question while I think of it:Are there any accessory wires located under the gas tank??Again,I really haven't looked into that either nor have I had the tank off yet.I figured I'd ask the pro's. lol Thank you. Dave!!!

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 ataDude 
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Posted : 29 Sep 2010 - 22:20   Post title : Re: passin lamps (Re: davetac1)
 
The connector for that switch is in the headlight shell. I used it to run my 25w (each) lights without additional relays. 50w = approx 4 amps... wire and fuse are more than adequate for that.

See the "My Mods..." thread in the Accessories forum for more information.



 
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 davetac1 
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Posted : 30 Sep 2010 - 00:53   Post title : Re: passin lamps (Re: ataDude)
 
Thank you sir.I suspected that there was a plug in the headlight housing,but I figured I'd check with the guys that have owned this machine a lot longer than I have.

Now the second part of the question was:to the best of your knowledge,is there a pigtail that's hot on ignition under the tank?? Thanks again. Dave!!!

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 ataDude 
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Posted : 30 Sep 2010 - 01:28   Post title : Re: passin lamps (Re: davetac1)
 
Can't help you there. Sorry.

 
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Posted : 30 Sep 2010 - 03:39   Post title : Re: passin lamps (Re: ataDude)
 
OK.No problem.And again I thank you sir.Once I get the tank lifted up or off the machine,I'll take a good look to see just what's under there and report back.lol I'm learning.lol Dave!!!

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 Ted 
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Posted : 30 Sep 2010 - 07:59   Post title : Re: passin lamps (Re: davetac1)
 
If you download fitting instructions from:
Link for the foglights, part no. A9938099 - A9938099-EN-1.pdf

it gives pretty clear explanations of what goes on in the headlight shell and switch. Hope this helps.

 
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 EnGage 
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Posted : 30 Sep 2010 - 13:37   Post title : Re: passin lamps (Re: davetac1)
 
The connections are inside the headlight housing. If you purchase the Triumph Auxiliary lights, you will get a wiring harness that plugs right in. I installed motolights so I spliced into them.

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Posted : 01 Oct 2010 - 02:30   Post title : Re: passin lamps (Re: EnGage)
 
atadude:Can you actually see anything in front of you with those little 25 watt lights shown in the above picture??Dave!!!

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Posted : 01 Oct 2010 - 14:49   Post title : Re: passin lamps (Re: davetac1)
 
I can't speak for atadude, but I do have motolights, which are also very small. I have the optional 50 Watt bulbs in them and they augment the somewhat lacking low beam quite nicely - I feel naked at night without them on. They illumination the roadside very well and stretch out a bit farther than the stock light.

They still aren't a substitute for a headlight with a good low beam, but they do help and make the bike much more noticeable night and day.





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Posted : 01 Oct 2010 - 15:26   Post title : Re: passin lamps (Re: davetac1)
 
First... the HD Fat Bob headlights do a great job for assisting my vision of the road in front... they are much better than the stock.

The running lights are more for me being seen from the front... with the HD Fat Bobs, I'm not sure that they add anything to my vision to the front. I am absolutely positive that they improve my VISIBILITY to other folks.

 
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Posted : 01 Oct 2010 - 15:36   Post title : Re: passin lamps (Re: ataDude)
 

ataDude wrote:

... I am absolutely positive that they improve my VISIBILITY to other folks.


Without a doubt.

I have been in front of my Tbird while a friend rode it and the addition of the two motolights creating a triangle (similar to your setup, atadude) really make the bike visible. My son said the same thing, he thought the bike was hard to spot until I put the motolights on. Now he says I am very visible.



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Posted : 01 Oct 2010 - 16:58   Post title : Re: passin lamps (Re: EnGage)
 
Engage:Just an observation,but in the picture with your lights mounted on the calipers,it looks like your tire is kinda soft.You can also see where the tire appears to be wearing evenly all the way across.Is there a reason for that??How much air pressure are you runnin in it??What do you know that I don't??? lol Do tell!! lol Dave!!!

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Posted : 01 Oct 2010 - 17:56   Post title : Re: passin lamps (Re: EnGage)
 
Your mount is even better because of the bouncing. Sort of a magnified modulator effect.

I ran those on my ST-1300 several years ago but kept getting rocks through the lens because I ride at the back in our small riding group.

 
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Posted : 01 Oct 2010 - 18:08   Post title : Re: passin lamps (Re: davetac1)
 

davetac1 wrote:

Engage:Just an observation,but in the picture with your lights mounted on the calipers,it looks like your tire is kinda soft.You can also see where the tire appears to be wearing evenly all the way across.Is there a reason for that??How much air pressure are you runnin in it??What do you know that I don't??? lol Do tell!! lol Dave!!!


Dave - I think it is just the picture. That was my first set of tires, which I ran at the suggested 36/38. These tires flattened like everyone else's and cupped real bad. The tires cupped badly enough to howl like the smoke monster on Lost when corning.

I have 3,500 miles on the new tires and they seem to be wearing better. I am running them at 40/42 at the suggestion of my dealer with the hope that they won't cup as badly, but only more time will tell.

I know you are running with less pressure so we'll have to compare notes as time goes on.

My guess is that the higher pressure will help the cupping, but won't help the flattening, but to me, the cupping is worse because the noise bugs me and cupping reduces the tire patch on the road when corning (and I got 10,000 out of the first set).

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Posted : 01 Oct 2010 - 19:35   Post title : Re: passin lamps (Re: EnGage)
 
The tread depth gauge doesn't lie.When a tire,any tire,is wearing in the middle,it's got too much air in it.PERIOD! Hence, if a tire is wearing on the edges,or cupping,then it doesn't have enough air in it.And my original rear tire,which had the recommended 38 psi in it, and 36 front,should have gone further then 6,000 miles.I was gettin 22,000 out of the rear tire on my RSV and that machine was a lot bigger and heavier.Oh ya! I forgot to mention that I did NOT follow Yamaha's recommended tire pressures either.Those who did, were also replacing tires prematurely.Right now,I'm runnin 33 front and 36 rear,but I may be dropping that rear another pound, down to 35.And this is after monitoring the wear with my tread depth gauge.My front is still good but was wearing in the middle,squaring off which is the reason I dropped that pressure.But since I've dropped these pressures,I really haven't noticed any difference in ride or handling.But again,I'm like an old lady.I don't use my machine to go around corners trying to break a new skid pad world record.lol And the fastest I've had the machine going, is a cool 90 mph and that was only once or twice,riding one up, and when on the highway.Plus I don't think the tach has ever made it up to the 3500 rpm mark,if that, in any gear.Like I said,I'm like an old lady.Now if I'm gonna carry a passenger,then naturally,I'll increase the pressures but only by a couple of pounds and no more.But what I am looking for,and will accept nothing less,is decent mileage out of these tires.Other then a plusher ride,and the bells and whistles I had on my RSV,this machine is every bit as good as the RSV.Naturally it's a little quicker,but it's also a couple hundred pounds lighter which was the reason I bought the T Bird and sold the RSV.I think I mentioned before that, either that bike was gettin heavier or I was gettin older.And I'm certainly not getting any older so it HAD to be the bike. lol Anyways,eventually I'll get this machine figured out too. OK!! Carry on.lol Dave!!!

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Posted : 02 Oct 2010 - 10:17   Post title : Re: passin lamps (Re: ataDude)
 

ataDude wrote:

First... the HD Fat Bob headlights do a great job for assisting my vision of the road in front... they are much better than the stock.

The running lights are more for me being seen from the front... with the HD Fat Bobs, I'm not sure that they add anything to my vision to the front. I am absolutely positive that they improve my VISIBILITY to other folks.


a few times lately i have been followed by cars/bikes with small blue lights, these little meanies are very noticable.
have you tried the blue bulbs?

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Posted : 02 Oct 2010 - 15:20   Post title : Re: passin lamps (Re: zolti)
 
Blue is illegal here. I have run them with amber lenses on other bikes (I have some somewhere in the garage) and will switch to those eventually.

 
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