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Topic : Battery cold cranking amps - 270 vs. 310?
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 tri650 
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Posted : 12 Apr 2018 - 16:19   Post title : Battery cold cranking amps - 270 vs. 310?
 
I have been having a few issues after the bike is warm with starting. It seems to hesitate and turn slowly. Have read a few threads about batteries and checked what I have. It is a YUASA YTX20L-BS. It has 270 ca. I have seen the Duracell with 310 ca. I know that is about a 15% increase but is that really significant enough to make a difference. I saw a discussion on a 400 ca option and actually found a 540 option for $300! Thoughts are welcome.

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 Slcharger 
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Posted : 12 Apr 2018 - 17:37   Post title : Re: Battery cold cranking amps - 270 vs. 310? (Re: tri650)
 

tri650 wrote:

I have been having a few issues after the bike is warm with starting. It seems to hesitate and turn slowly. Have read a few threads about batteries and checked what I have. It is a YUASA YTX20L-BS. It has 270 ca. I have seen the Duracell with 310 ca. I know that is about a 15% increase but is that really significant enough to make a difference. I saw a discussion on a 400 ca option and actually found a 540 option for $300! Thoughts are welcome.


How is it cranking, when cold ??
When the battery is cold, and the engine like wise, the needed cranking current is the highest.
Normally the needed cranking current is a lot lower, when the engine is hot.
Are you sure all connections are solid and without corrosion ?
The negative wire, and its connection to the engine has been known too causing trouble in the past.

Please check all connections on the battery, and the engine and starter as well.
Use some dielectric grease to cover all connections.





 
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Posted : 12 Apr 2018 - 20:43   Post title : Re: Battery cold cranking amps - 270 vs. 310? (Re: Slcharger)
 
When cold it starts fine. I did check out all of the connections. I determined that a previous problem was due to some corrosion on the positive lead. I took off both leads and cleaned them thoroughly and used dielectric grease on the connections. My previous problem with starting went away once I cleaned up the terminals. Now it just seems to lag a little when warm. I know the battery is old so it probably needs to be replaced anyway.

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 GerPa 
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Posted : 13 Apr 2018 - 05:28   Post title : Re: Battery cold cranking amps - 270 vs. 310? (Re: tri650)
 
There has been many that have got 5yrs and some longer, "I Did" however the number of problem we have seen on here over the years that have gone back to be "The battery was a Little Sad" are many.

Coming from the US and having all those lovely weather patterns,If you have got 4yrs + out of it,and if you can afford it then just change it and you will then know it's right for the next 4+yrs. if you cant afford to change it take it down to a Reputable Battery Shop and get them to load test it and they should be able to tell you exactly what it's condition is.

If you going to replace it, then just go "like for like". Those bloody Pommie Engineers that designed these thing by and largely ( I know a lot will say BullSHit) know their shit and they would have had a bit of spare capacity / comfort built into the capacity of the existing battery. You dont really need shit loads more than what is already there as the battery is ONLY there to get the thing running. The alternator does all the work when it's running no matter what the load is.

 
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 Leethal 
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Posted : 13 Apr 2018 - 20:51   Post title : Re: Battery cold cranking amps - 270 vs. 310? (Re: GerPa)
 
Totally agree, if you or anyone gets 5 years from a stock battery why wouldn't you stay with a known value.

 
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Posted : 15 Apr 2018 - 04:55   Post title : Re: Battery cold cranking amps - 270 vs. 310? (Re: Leethal)
 

Leethal wrote:

Totally agree, if you or anyone gets 5 years from a stock battery why wouldn't you stay with a known value.


Price, warranty and higher CCA. I credit my maintainer for the 5 years I got out of my stock [Yuasa] battery but the Duracell Ultra I replaced it with had better specs and a 2-year replacement warranty at a lower price. The new battery, with higher CCA, kicks the starter like a mule. It's on the same maintainer, so time will tell...

 
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Posted : 15 Apr 2018 - 22:47   Post title : Re: Battery cold cranking amps - 270 vs. 310? (Re: PapaSmurfMC)
 


All good, but you guys have a much more competitive market over there, I didn't bother to compare when mine died at 5 years, plus I was at a MC shop when it went so just had it replaced while I had a coffee.


 
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