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| | | kenken | | Set |  | | Reg. Date | : | 19/04/2017 | | Posts | : | 13 | | Location | : | kyoto, Japan |
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| | Posted : 21 Apr 2017 - 10:08 Post title : T-bird is running also in Japan (very slightly) | | | Harley Davidson's popularity in Japan is too high and T-BIRD is not popular at all.
However, as a long-time Suzuki believer I bought T-BIRD feeling the smell of Suzuki.
I think Suzuki should develop this motorcycle as "GR 1600" or "GSX 1600 LTD".
 
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| | | Tal | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 30/01/2015 | | Posts | : | 1,074 | | Location | : | Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand |
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| | Posted : 21 Apr 2017 - 10:26 Post title : Re: T-bird is running also in Japan (very slightly) (Re: kenken) | | | Copying aint gonna cut the mustard!
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| | | Slcharger | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 18/02/2016 | | Posts | : | 1,665 | | Location | : | Denmark |
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| | Posted : 21 Apr 2017 - 15:40 Post title : Re: T-bird is running also in Japan (very slightly) (Re: Tal) | | | Nope, A TB is a TB, not copy able. 
They will never get it right, with all that rattle, clacking, and other noise. Dino oil, out of the question. 
Like a typical Jap bike, it would probably run perfect, no issues, no problems, what a boring bike. 
| Big Bird, Bordeaux with " Celtic theme " Airbrush, 2010, 1700CC, ABS, 65.000 km. Lowered with Nitros rear shocks, Linear front springs, Burchard forward footrest kit, Kuryakyn ISO grips, LOTS of chrome, SLcharger REV2+ tune, Modified Cee Baileys windshield, Oil pressure gauge, Air box elimination kit, Portet cylinderhead, Intake cam advanved 8 degree, Exhaust cam retarded 2 degree, 10.5 C/R, Knock sensor, Machined flywheel, DNA Chrome Spoke wheels, 18x8.5"- AVON AV72- 240/40/18, 21x3.5"- AVON AV71- 120/70/21, Corbin seat with backrest, 20W fork oil. Hiflo HF303RC oil filter, Penrite Racing 20-20W60 engine oil, Adjurl lights.
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| | | daz | | Zeus | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,709 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 21 Apr 2017 - 16:46 Post title : Re: T-bird is running also in Japan | | | I'd buy it under certain conditions. If they use much better chrome than the junk they tend to use on japanese bikes and if overall build quality doesn't looks so cheap, I'm might well be in. Doesn't have to be AS nice as the bird but somewhere in the acceptable to good range between the 2. My reasons...
1. at this point and age I've stopped really caring about pride of ownership and the history of a brand like triumph in favor of eliminating all the things i don't like about triumph twins including those DREADED noises.
2. Japanese designs IMO usually have fantastic, reliable, and quiet good running engines that don't sound like a steel factory at full tilt.
3.overall cost of initial layout, maintenance, and parts is a lot cheaper.
4. dealer locations !!! You could live in the sahara desert and you'd end up less than 50 feet from the nearest hond/suzuki/kawi/yamaha dealer !
In other words, i want zero irritants and low cost so that i can just ride and not be constantly worrying about being able to afford to keep riding or whether a horribly disconcerting noise will ever go away, or whether the nearest dealership will disappear. Buy the way, the dealer i bought my Tbird from on '09 is gone, and the dealer i bought my speedmaster in '05 is gone. And the one that opened near me recently almost sold thier dealership a mere 2 years after it opened and only changed thier mind when the new bonnie line came out and sold like hotacakes. Otherwise they's no longer sell triumph too. So yeah, i'd be up for a asian Tbird if they do it right. Probably have better power too. I gave triumph my business and they have disappointed me in several ways so i'd certainly welcome a change.
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| | | AZCactus | | Taranis | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 01/05/2013 | | Posts | : | 4,505 | | Location | : | AZ |
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| | Posted : 21 Apr 2017 - 17:06 Post title : Re: T-bird is running also in Japan (Re: daz) | | | kenken's probably the Suzuki CEO taking a poll.
Anyway, I'm not crazy about plastic valve covers 
Oh, welcome to the forum....
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| | | primerump | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 02/05/2013 | | Posts | : | 5 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 21 Apr 2017 - 17:16 Post title : Re: T-bird is running also in Japan (very slightly) (Re: kenken) | | |
I find the HD popularity in Japan somewhat amusing.. I guess they don't know what a good bike is either.. ?
I owned a Hardley Davidson for a short while and basically it's the worst bike I've ever owned..
1. under powered
2. over weight
3. handles like crap
4. almost no ground clearance
5. shit brakes
6. twice the cost of my storm..
oh.. but it was all chrome and shiny..
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| | | Slcharger | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 18/02/2016 | | Posts | : | 1,665 | | Location | : | Denmark |
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| | Posted : 21 Apr 2017 - 17:19 Post title : Re: T-bird is running also in Japan (very slightly) (Re: primerump) | | |
primerump wrote:
I find the HD popularity in Japan somewhat amusing.. I guess they don't know what a good bike is either.. ?
I owned a Hardley Davidson for a short while and basically it's the worst bike I've ever owned..
1. under powered
2. over weight
3. handles like crap
4. almost no ground clearance
5. shit brakes
6. twice the cost of my storm..
oh.. but it was all chrome and shiny..
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| Big Bird, Bordeaux with " Celtic theme " Airbrush, 2010, 1700CC, ABS, 65.000 km. Lowered with Nitros rear shocks, Linear front springs, Burchard forward footrest kit, Kuryakyn ISO grips, LOTS of chrome, SLcharger REV2+ tune, Modified Cee Baileys windshield, Oil pressure gauge, Air box elimination kit, Portet cylinderhead, Intake cam advanved 8 degree, Exhaust cam retarded 2 degree, 10.5 C/R, Knock sensor, Machined flywheel, DNA Chrome Spoke wheels, 18x8.5"- AVON AV72- 240/40/18, 21x3.5"- AVON AV71- 120/70/21, Corbin seat with backrest, 20W fork oil. Hiflo HF303RC oil filter, Penrite Racing 20-20W60 engine oil, Adjurl lights.
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| | | trdutch | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 30/12/2010 | | Posts | : | 54 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 21 Apr 2017 - 19:19 Post title : Re: T-bird is running also in Japan (very slightly) (Re: kenken) | | | If Suzy got their hands on it then it's cool factor goes right out the widow
Triumph's have a mystique every old school American biker road a Trumpet before a Harley
Suzy's????,Never in my lifetime.
A Japanese cruiser will always be a wannabe
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I went my own way and now I am found.
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| | | edmontonstorm | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/09/2014 | | Posts | : | 1,054 | | Location | : | Alberta, Canada |
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| | Posted : 21 Apr 2017 - 21:00 Post title : Re: T-bird is running also in Japan (very slightly) (Re: trdutch) | | | i have owned British (specifically triumphs) for a while now but when i am ready to swap out i think the next one might be kawi.
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| | | kenken | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 19/04/2017 | | Posts | : | 13 | | Location | : | kyoto, Japan |
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| | Posted : 22 Apr 2017 - 01:25 Post title : Re: T-bird is running also in Japan (very slightly) (Re: edmontonstorm) | | | When I thought about switching from the 1991 GSX - R 1100 which I had been on for 10 years to a large cruiserbike, the candidate was Harley - Davidson.
The style, design and quality of the parts were wonderful not found in a motorbike made in Japan, but it was not worth repaying a long long loan when riding.
Harley 's curse with Japanese Twin engines made in Japan was not a candidate from the beginning.
(You only need to take a Harley if you buy it)
Then, what remained was Honda's Valkyrie or Triumph's Thunderbird.
But for me who dislikes Honda I have had little options. 
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| | | AZCactus | | Taranis | | | | Reg. Date | : | 01/05/2013 | | Posts | : | 4,505 | | Location | : | AZ |
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| | Posted : 22 Apr 2017 - 02:32 Post title : Re: T-bird is running also in Japan (very slightly) (Re: kenken) | | | Nice bike, good choice, best color too 
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| | | MotorMac | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 29/08/2010 | | Posts | : | 1,851 | | Location | : | Nor Cal, United States |
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| | Posted : 22 Apr 2017 - 03:03 Post title : Re: T-bird is running also in Japan (very slightly) (Re: kenken) | | | Good choice! And welcome aboard, kenken.
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| | | PapaSmurfMC | | Chaac | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 03/10/2013 | | Posts | : | 871 | | Location | : | Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States |
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| | Posted : 22 Apr 2017 - 03:33 Post title : Re: T-bird is running also in Japan (very slightly) (Re: kenken) | | | My TBird doesn't feel the smell of Suzuki but you made a good choice, kenken (although blue is faster).
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| | | kenken | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 19/04/2017 | | Posts | : | 13 | | Location | : | kyoto, Japan |
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| | Posted : 22 Apr 2017 - 05:06 Post title : Re: T-bird is running also in Japan (very slightly) (Re: PapaSmurfMC) | | | Suzuki's smell
??? Best engine
??? It is not as rational as Honda
??? It is not as stylish as Yamaha
??? It is not as rugged as Kawasaki
??? There is no popularity from people who do not ride a bike
??? There are enthusiastic fans in a very small part
By the way my T - Bird is Jet Black,
It is not blue · · ·
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| | | edbob | | Chaac | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 04/04/2012 | | Posts | : | 931 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 22 Apr 2017 - 17:35 Post title : Re: T-bird is running also in Japan (very slightly) (Re: kenken) | | |
kenken wrote:
Suzuki's smell
??? Best engine
??? It is not as rational as Honda
??? It is not as stylish as Yamaha
??? It is not as rugged as Kawasaki
??? There is no popularity from people who do not ride a bike
??? There are enthusiastic fans in a very small part
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Absolutely agreed! It is interesting to see the Japanese perspective of products from your home market. I had a 1992 GSXR1100 for a while. Nothing quite like it. Enjoy your Triumph!
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| | | Slcharger | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 18/02/2016 | | Posts | : | 1,665 | | Location | : | Denmark |
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| | Posted : 22 Apr 2017 - 17:50 Post title : Re: T-bird is running also in Japan (very slightly) (Re: edbob) | | | I used to be a Suzuki fan too.
550 GT.
But now i am a grown up.
| Big Bird, Bordeaux with " Celtic theme " Airbrush, 2010, 1700CC, ABS, 65.000 km. Lowered with Nitros rear shocks, Linear front springs, Burchard forward footrest kit, Kuryakyn ISO grips, LOTS of chrome, SLcharger REV2+ tune, Modified Cee Baileys windshield, Oil pressure gauge, Air box elimination kit, Portet cylinderhead, Intake cam advanved 8 degree, Exhaust cam retarded 2 degree, 10.5 C/R, Knock sensor, Machined flywheel, DNA Chrome Spoke wheels, 18x8.5"- AVON AV72- 240/40/18, 21x3.5"- AVON AV71- 120/70/21, Corbin seat with backrest, 20W fork oil. Hiflo HF303RC oil filter, Penrite Racing 20-20W60 engine oil, Adjurl lights.
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| | | Hornet | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 05/05/2013 | | Posts | : | 1,294 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 22 Apr 2017 - 18:07 Post title : Re: T-bird is running also in Japan (very slightly) (Re: Slcharger) | | |
Slcharger wrote:
I used to be a Suzuki fan too.
550 GT.
But now i am a grown up.
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I had one of those back in the day, 1972. Blue with black stripes and white pin striping.
Ring, ding, ding
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| | | kenken | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 19/04/2017 | | Posts | : | 13 | | Location | : | kyoto, Japan |
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| | Posted : 22 Apr 2017 - 22:35 Post title : Re: T-bird is running also in Japan (very slightly) (Re: Hornet) | | | Suzuki's cars I got on
The most favorite maker is still Suzuki,
But my favorite motorcycle is Thunderbird so far.
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| | | kenken | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 19/04/2017 | | Posts | : | 13 | | Location | : | kyoto, Japan |
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| | Posted : 23 Apr 2017 - 07:44 Post title : Re: T-bird is running also in Japan (very slightly) (Re: edbob) | | | Previously I felt "smell of Suzuki" in Ducati, but the current Ducati is stylish and reasonable, it has become less broken.
(However, the price is not cheap like a Japanese bike)
It is deplorable.
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| | | Tal | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 30/01/2015 | | Posts | : | 1,074 | | Location | : | Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand |
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| | Posted : 23 Apr 2017 - 07:50 Post title : Re: T-bird is running also in Japan (very slightly) (Re: kenken) | | | Just so I know...when you say "smell of Suzuki" do you mean a likeness to a Suzuki...or to put it another way, a similarity?..
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| | | taffy13 | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 15/03/2015 | | Posts | : | 117 | | Location | : | gunns plains, tasmania, Australia |
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| | Posted : 24 Apr 2017 - 23:24 Post title : Re: T-bird is running also in Japan (very slightly) (Re: Slcharger) | | | G/Day to everyone.
I had one of these suzuki 550GT too, the only Jap road bike i ever owned...had a lot of fun on it coming down the east coast from Townsville to Melbourne on it.
Between the cage drivers and the roo population trying to knock me off the bike a change of jocks was required more than once.....
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