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| | | DangerMouse | | Chaac |  |  | | Reg. Date | : | 28/03/2016 | | Posts | : | 546 | | Location | : | South East, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 30 Mar 2017 - 01:15 Post title : Re: Front Brakes Upgrade? (Re: Slcharger) | | | I fitted my EBC HH front pads today and replaced the (rather manky looking) brake fluid with fresh DOT 5.1. Got a set of rears waiting to go on too. Haven't ridden it yet but it'll be interesting to see the difference.
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| | | DangerMouse | | Chaac | | | | Reg. Date | : | 28/03/2016 | | Posts | : | 546 | | Location | : | South East, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 01 Apr 2017 - 01:28 Post title : Re: Front Brakes Upgrade? (Re: barks) | | | Well I finally got to ride my bike since putting EBC HHs in and changing the fluid. Perhaps they need to bed in a bit more - but I don't feel the brakes have improved that much - if at all in real terms given the pads that came out were in a pretty sorry state.
I suspect the pads are harder and will require a few miles on them. Did about about 20 miles with a few repeated hard stops, still needed three fingers to get any real bite.
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| | | Leethal | | Zeus | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 24/01/2011 | | Posts | : | 6,517 | | Location | : | Australia |
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| | Posted : 01 Apr 2017 - 06:49 Post title : Re: Front Brakes Upgrade? (Re: DangerMouse) | | | I've been using them for a few years now back and front, can't say they are a huge improvement over stock in performance, but they last and last.
Some say they are noisy but I wear ear plugs always so it doesn't bother me.
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| | Posted : 01 Apr 2017 - 12:44 Post title : Re: Front Brakes Upgrade? (Re: DangerMouse) | | |
DangerMouse wrote:
Well I finally got to ride my bike since putting EBC HHs in and changing the fluid. Perhaps they need to bed in a bit more - but I don't feel the brakes have improved that much - if at all in real terms given the pads that came out were in a pretty sorry state.
I suspect the pads are harder and will require a few miles on them. Did about about 20 miles with a few repeated hard stops, still needed three fingers to get any real bite.
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Sure there is a judgement of subjective here, but i believe i feel a difference. Maybe it just because i have strong hands. Can make the ABS kick in with "just" 2 fingers.
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| | Posted : 01 Apr 2017 - 12:45 Post title : Re: Front Brakes Upgrade? (Re: Leethal) | | |
Leethal wrote:
I've been using them for a few years now back and front, can't say they are a huge improvement over stock in performance, but they last and last.
Some say they are noisy but I wear ear plugs always so it doesn't bother me. |
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Yup, they last and last, and they are not wearing down the rotor's as fast as people claim.
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| | | Leethal | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 24/01/2011 | | Posts | : | 6,517 | | Location | : | Australia |
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| | Posted : 01 Apr 2017 - 22:35 Post title : Re: Front Brakes Upgrade? (Re: Slcharger) | | | Just checked my records, fronts have done 69000 kms, rears 37500kms. Rears to be changed with next rear tyre in about 3000kms, fronts still have a bit to go. I measured the discs not that long ago and they were still well within spec.
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| | | DangerMouse | | Chaac | | | | Reg. Date | : | 28/03/2016 | | Posts | : | 546 | | Location | : | South East, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 02 Apr 2017 - 01:10 Post title : Re: Front Brakes Upgrade? (Re: Slcharger) | | |
Slcharger wrote:
Sure there is a judgement of subjective here, but i believe i feel a difference. Maybe it just because i have strong hands. Can make the ABS kick in with "just" 2 fingers.
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Well as an ex heavyweight boxer and a bass player for 30 years I don't think I lack hand and finger power!  I was just going by the figures above that were suggesting a 42% increase in brake performance, I think even the most ham-fisted rider would notice that. You can stand my Busa on its nose from any speed with two finger braking, thanks to the 4pad, 4pot Brembos. Unless my brakes improve massively as the pads break in I think i'll be shopping for another set of calipers for the Trumpet. Changing the pads was a good idea anyway as the originals were starting to break up a little.
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| | | Slcharger | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 18/02/2016 | | Posts | : | 1,665 | | Location | : | Denmark |
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| | Posted : 02 Apr 2017 - 04:16 Post title : Re: Front Brakes Upgrade? (Re: DangerMouse) | | | DangerMouse wrote:
Slcharger wrote:
Sure there is a judgement of subjective here, but i believe i feel a difference. Maybe it just because i have strong hands. Can make the ABS kick in with "just" 2 fingers.
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Well as an ex heavyweight boxer and a bass player for 30 years I don't think I lack hand and finger power! I was just going by the figures above that were suggesting a 42% increase in brake performance, I think even the most ham-fisted rider would notice that. You can stand my Busa on its nose from any speed with two finger braking, thanks to the 4pad, 4pot Brembos. Unless my brakes improve massively as the pads break in I think i'll be shopping for another set of calipers for the Trumpet. Changing the pads was a good idea anyway as the originals were starting to break up a little.
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Your call i guess.
Instead of changing the calipers, you could consider finding a diff. MC with less diameter piston. The front brakes on the bird are ridged made, so the movement of the lever is small. There is room for more movement, which occur if you fit a smaller MC. Try out my brake calculator, and see the consequences. There might even be a ready to fit MC from one of the smaller Triumps, with one only caliper.
If you fit calipers with bigger pistons, which is more expensive than a MC, the same will happen. More movement on the lever.
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| | | easyrider | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 17/12/2011 | | Posts | : | 2,066 | | Location | : | NSW, Australia |
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| | Posted : 02 Apr 2017 - 11:54 Post title : Re: Front Brakes Upgrade? (Re: DangerMouse) | | |
DangerMouse wrote:
Slcharger wrote:
Sure there is a judgement of subjective here, but i believe i feel a difference. Maybe it just because i have strong hands. Can make the ABS kick in with "just" 2 fingers.
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Well as an ex heavyweight boxer and a bass player for 30 years I don't think I lack hand and finger power! I was just going by the figures above that were suggesting a 42% increase in brake performance, I think even the most ham-fisted rider would notice that. You can stand my Busa on its nose from any speed with two finger braking, thanks to the 4pad, 4pot Brembos. Unless my brakes improve massively as the pads break in I think i'll be shopping for another set of calipers for the Trumpet. Changing the pads was a good idea anyway as the originals were starting to break up a little.
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To get better calipers for the Bird , u will most probably need a adapter made up to fit the calipers. The beauty of good calipers and brake cyl
is that u get feel ,plus they wash off speed a lot quicker without the need to heat right up first as the stock ones do, there's a big difference in stopping
at a 100 mph with good calipers than the stockies , also when doing 40 miles of hard twisties good brakes shine 
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| | | Slcharger | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 18/02/2016 | | Posts | : | 1,665 | | Location | : | Denmark |
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| | Posted : 02 Apr 2017 - 15:26 Post title : Re: Front Brakes Upgrade? (Re: DangerMouse) | | | DangerMouse wrote:
Well I finally got to ride my bike since putting EBC HHs in and changing the fluid. Perhaps they need to bed in a bit more - but I don't feel the brakes have improved that much - if at all in real terms given the pads that came out were in a pretty sorry state.
I suspect the pads are harder and will require a few miles on them. Did about about 20 miles with a few repeated hard stops, still needed three fingers to get any real bite.
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Give both the pads and the rotors a chance to adapt to each other. Don't try to force it, by doing several emergency braking. Give em some 500-1000 km. and let's talk again.
Anyway the calculation is correct, so either the pads fitted on you bike had a higher fric. coeff. than 0.35, or the EBC have a lower than 0.5 and i don't believe that.
This Italian company offers 340 mm. rotors together with Brembo's.
They are made for the Thruxton, but i guess it's only a matter of changing the caliper bracket to make them fit.
The Thruxton is also born with 310mm rotors.
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| | Posted : 02 Apr 2017 - 15:35 Post title : Re: Front Brakes Upgrade? (Re: Slcharger) | | | These are what I've got on my Busa (with an adapter plate) and they are awesome.
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| | | Slcharger | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 18/02/2016 | | Posts | : | 1,665 | | Location | : | Denmark |
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| | Posted : 02 Apr 2017 - 15:43 Post title : Re: Front Brakes Upgrade? (Re: easyrider) | | | This is a good post on "brake feel"
It's from a Ducati forum, but still relevant in general.
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Radial and conventional/axial master cylinders differ in the orientation of the piston relative to the handlebar and to the pull direction of the lever. The conventional design places the piston axis parallel to the handlebar and perpendicular to the lever pull direction. The radial design puts the piston axis parallel to the lever pull direction and perpendicular to the handlebar. Radial and axial master cylinders are functionally the same.
The main advantage of the radial design per se is that it moves the lever pivot point inward toward the centerline of the bike so that the same pull force develops a smaller moment about the connection point to the handlebar. This reduction in bending moment results in less flexing of the master cylinder housing. Any reduction in flexing of brake parts such as in the lever, MC housing, brake lines, calipers and caliper mounts add up to better brakes with better feel (modulation.) Also, aftermarket radial designs are generally stiffer than the OEM designs because they are machined from alloy billet material.
The main reason (other than for appearance and weight savings) that Ducati owners replace the factory set-up with a radial aftermarket unit is to obtain a different MC piston size (hydraulic ratio) and lever pivot point distance (mechanical ratio.) This allows you to selectively increase or decrease the amount of pull force required to develop the same force at the brake pads by using a larger or smaller MC piston diameter. This combined with a shorter or longer distance between the lever pivot point and the piston actuation link will shift the control to one of more power, or more sensitivity if you prefer.
Keep in mind however, changing your stock master cylinder to an aftermarket radial design will NOT give you more braking power to help you stop sooner.
A radial master cylinder with a different piston diameter and/or lever fulcrum-to-piston distance will only change the feel of the brakes at the lever. So keep in mind that Ducati chose a master cylinder size to give you the best modulation characteristics (feel, sensitivity and control) for your bike.
Good modulation means good feedback to the rider during a stop. A good braking system needs to establish the closest linear relationship possible between the force applied to the brake lever and the actual deceleration of the bike. Stopping power is technically easy to achieve, but achieving it along with good proportional braking response is more difficult. This, I feel, is the major factor influencing braking quality.
That's not to say that the Ducati engineering department's choice is best for all riders or riding conditions. The best choice for the track isn't the best choice for the street.
Different riders have different preferences and we're all adaptable. A rider is able to compensate for one performance drawback to gain an advantage with another. But again, it's situational dependent; a braking system that gives repeated stops from 150mph with the force application of one finger is not necessarily optimum for a 40mph panic stop in traffic. Even though a rider is adaptive to a braking system's general behavior doesn't mean that in an emergency that he'll use a light one-finger pull to stop.
So let's move on to your choices.
First, there's a different master cylinder size requirement for single rotor systems than for dual rotor systems. A dual rotor set-up has a lot more caliper pistons to move so a larger volume of hydraulic fluid has to be moved by the master cylinder piston.
Also, since different Ducati models have different size calipers and rotors you can't always translate a recommended master cylinder size to another setup.
A master cylinder size designation is written AAxBB where AA is the diameter of the piston in mm, BB is the fulcrum-to-piston distance in mm.
The master cylinder piston diameter is chosen based on the number and size of the caliper pistons.
A fulcrum-to-piston distance affects two things: the amount of force needed at the lever, and the distance that the lever needs to be pulled through (to displace and compress the same amount of hydraulic fluid which in turns forces the caliper pistons against the rotor discs) to yield the SAME stopping power.
Single Disc
The Brembo aftermarket radial 16mm diameter master cylinders offer you the choice of a brake lever fulcrum-to-piston distance of either 16mm or 18mm. The stock Brembo lever has a 16mm dimension.
So your choice is either 16x16 or 16x18.
From the geometry, a 18mm lever will need to be pulled a 11% shorter distance than a 16mm lever but will at the same time require more lever force than a 16mm to stop the same distance.
Dual Disc
The Brembo aftermarket radial 19mm diameter master cylinders offer you the choice of a brake lever fulcrum-to-piston distance of either 16mm, 18mm or 20mm. The stock lever is 16mm.
So your choice is either 19x16, 19x18 or 19x20.
19x16 (stock) requires the least lever effort but the longest pull distance for the best modulation.
19x18 requires 11% lighter pull and 11% longer pull distance than the 19x20 MC. More feel (better modulation characteristics) than the 19x20
19x20 requires the most lever force but the shortest pull. More like a trigger action.
Some riders think that this short-pull trigger action means that they have "better" brakes, but they don't - at least not for all riding conditions. What they do get is the same braking power with poorer modulation (feel) characteristics. Good for the track perhaps, but often dangerous on the street, especially in the wet. In an emergency, most of us have the instinct to grab a brake hard. So if you value a better feel, when choosing between the 19x18 and the 19x20 for the street, go for the 19X18. Better still, stay with Ducati's choice, 19x16.
On the other hand, some prefer their lever hard.
So again, I'm not suggesting that every rider will have the same preference in a braking system's modulation characteristics. Depending on your preference (or need) you can have brakes with an initial vague feeling, a strong initial bite, or something in between. You can select pads that have better high temperature behavior. On a race bike you can select brake pad and rotor material that will survive a race without needing replacement, but on the street, materials need to be more durable and function under less severe braking conditions and more varied weather conditions.
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| | | easyrider | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 17/12/2011 | | Posts | : | 2,066 | | Location | : | NSW, Australia |
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| | Posted : 05 Apr 2017 - 10:10 Post title : Re: Front Brakes Upgrade? (Re: DangerMouse) | | |
DangerMouse wrote:
These are what I've got on my Busa (with an adapter plate) and they are awesome.
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yep thats what i had on my Busa . But i had to use ferodo pads.
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| | | DangerMouse | | Chaac | | | | Reg. Date | : | 28/03/2016 | | Posts | : | 546 | | Location | : | South East, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 08 Apr 2017 - 16:52 Post title : Re: Front Brakes Upgrade? (Re: easyrider) | | | Brave going for dymags on a Busa. In my club events we had a couple of guys nearly crashing due to lack of stability past 180mph with light wheels.
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| | | easyrider | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 17/12/2011 | | Posts | : | 2,066 | | Location | : | NSW, Australia |
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| | Posted : 09 Apr 2017 - 11:58 Post title : Re: Front Brakes Upgrade? (Re: DangerMouse) | | | Never had that problem, my Busa weighed in at 200.8 kgs with 12 ltrs of fuel .. 
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| | Posted : 09 Apr 2017 - 22:09 Post title : Re: Front Brakes Upgrade? (Re: easyrider) | | | Plus the 120kg rider 
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| | | DangerMouse | | Chaac | | | | Reg. Date | : | 28/03/2016 | | Posts | : | 546 | | Location | : | South East, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 10 Apr 2017 - 18:41 Post title : Re: Front Brakes Upgrade? (Re: Leethal) | | | Leethal wrote:
Plus the 120kg rider |
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The rider having most problems was more like 130kg, but with 240bhp at bhe back wheel the front end was getting seriously unsettled - he ended up borrowing a set of standard wheels before he killed himself!
PS the biggest problem was crosswinds, the busas with light-weight wheels were blown around everywhere.
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| | | easyrider | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 17/12/2011 | | Posts | : | 2,066 | | Location | : | NSW, Australia |
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| | Posted : 11 Apr 2017 - 04:55 Post title : Re: Front Brakes Upgrade? (Re: DangerMouse) | | |
DangerMouse wrote:
Leethal wrote:
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The rider having most problems was more like 130kg, but with 240bhp at bhe back wheel the front end was getting seriously unsettled - he ended up borrowing a set of standard wheels before he killed himself!
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Was it the 3 spoke of 5 spoke , as they have set land speed records with carbon wheels.
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| | Posted : 11 Apr 2017 - 04:55 Post title : Re: Front Brakes Upgrade? (Re: Leethal) | | |
Leethal wrote:
Plus the 120kg rider |
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| | Posted : 11 Apr 2017 - 09:51 Post title : Re: Front Brakes Upgrade? (Re: easyrider) | | | Jee's Ray! That's borderline criminal abuse of a front tyre mate
You do know that the speed limit is 110 k's don't you
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| | | easyrider | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 17/12/2011 | | Posts | : | 2,066 | | Location | : | NSW, Australia |
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| | Posted : 12 Apr 2017 - 12:47 Post title : Re: Front Brakes Upgrade? (Re: mexicanbob) | | |
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Jee's Ray! That's borderline criminal abuse of a front tyre mate
You do know that the speed limit is 110 k's don't you
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| | Posted : 12 Apr 2017 - 21:09 Post title : Re: Front Brakes Upgrade? (Re: Slcharger) | | | Slcharger wrote:
Give both the pads and the rotors a chance to adapt to each other. Don't try to force it, by doing several emergency braking. Give em some 500-1000 km. and let's talk again.
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In over 30 years of riding I've never known any brakes requiring such long bedding-in time, my EBC HH pads have now done 400 miles (640km) and they're no better than the stockers, the initial extra bite seems to have gone. Not impressed so far. The calipers are in good order - no sticking pistons. I cleaned the rotors with proper brake cleaner.
PS the post above mine is causing thread formatting issues. (great BB software! - not!)
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| | Posted : 16 Apr 2017 - 23:51 Post title : Re: Front Brakes Upgrade? (Re: barks) | | | An interesting thread! Just make sure your brakes don't end up like this! 
 
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| | Posted : 17 Apr 2017 - 02:31 Post title : Re: Front Brakes Upgrade? (Re: DangerMouse) | | |
DangerMouse wrote:
In over 30 years of riding I've never known any brakes requiring such long bedding-in time, my EBC HH pads have now done 400 miles (640km) and they're no better than the stockers, the initial extra bite seems to have gone. Not impressed so far. The calipers are in good order - no sticking pistons. I cleaned the rotors with proper brake cleaner. |
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Agree. I've got about the same mileage on my EBC HH pads; most I can say in their favor is that they're not as dusty as organic pads.
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| | Posted : 17 Apr 2017 - 03:35 Post title : Re: Front Brakes Upgrade? (Re: PapaSmurfMC) | | | my experience, ceramic very little dust.
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