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| DrMooman | | Set |  | | Reg. Date | : | 09/08/2016 | | Posts | : | 73 | | Location | : | Wales, Wales, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 01 Sep 2016 - 06:51 Post title : Throttle Cable Adjustment | | | Hi there
I've just uploaded my Throttle Cable Adjustment Guide to my website
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Feel free to comment- particularly on Closing cable adjustment and recommendations on how you have lubricated the throttle cables -e.g. have your removed them or done them still attached to the bike.
Also how often have you done it?
If i get enough good advise i'll add it the guide in time
Happy tinkering
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| Leethal | | Zeus | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 24/01/2011 | | Posts | : | 6,485 | | Location | : | Australia |
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| | Posted : 01 Sep 2016 - 09:44 Post title : Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Re: DrMooman) | | | Not sure if the throttle cables are the same as the clutch, which has a Teflon inner, and should not be lubed with oil based product.
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| DrMooman | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 09/08/2016 | | Posts | : | 73 | | Location | : | Wales, Wales, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 01 Sep 2016 - 17:13 Post title : Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Re: Leethal) | | | thanks i'll do some research and update the guide :-)
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| DrMooman | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 09/08/2016 | | Posts | : | 73 | | Location | : | Wales, Wales, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 01 Sep 2016 - 19:15 Post title : Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Re: DrMooman) | | | After quite a bit of internet research it seems to me that the consensus is that the cable are intended to be maintenance free in that they have an inner teflon coating. Furthermore for those that do lube this model they find themselves doing it every year.
But that said, i think there is some sense in spraying some ACF-50 or multipurpose grease on the ball that fits into the handle bar unit because dirt and water does get into these bits. It seems that if you keep these semi-exposed bits lubed up in something then the rest of the inner cable should stay intact.
I further suspect that if triumph and their dealers could make money out of having another service item on the list- i.e. throttle and cable lubrication- then they would as they would make money out of it and lets face it- not always do it. And given that there is no mention in the Triumph Service manual or owners manual then i would suspect that it isn't meant to be lubed. Not that those guides are the ultimate, but if it was a required task it would be in there. Changing the spark plugs is not in there but it is in the maintenance schedule so I'm leaning towards them not needing to be lubricated but i might add in greasing/lubing the connecting cable balls into the guide
Does that seem sensible?
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| edmontonstorm | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/09/2014 | | Posts | : | 1,054 | | Location | : | Alberta, Canada |
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| | Posted : 01 Sep 2016 - 20:06 Post title : Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Re: DrMooman) | | | i have always just used a really good cable spray on the moving parts every now and again, but nothing on the cables directly. I have NEVER in over 30 years of riding had a cable break!  (now i need to find some wood to go knock on)
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| DrMooman | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 09/08/2016 | | Posts | : | 73 | | Location | : | Wales, Wales, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 01 Sep 2016 - 21:28 Post title : Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Re: edmontonstorm) | | | Then i found this discussion- Link
So clutch cable lube but not the throttle cables
Thanks for the feedback
| | Post edited by DrMooman on 01 Sep 2016 - 21:30 |
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| Leethal | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 24/01/2011 | | Posts | : | 6,485 | | Location | : | Australia |
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| | Posted : 01 Sep 2016 - 22:49 Post title : Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Re: DrMooman) | | | Ok, my experience has been this, I replaced a clutch cable some years ago, it was starting to fray at the lever end near the ball. When I took it off and felt the grit inside by moving the inner cable I realised that my old school practice of lubing it was the culprit, the light oil was attracting dirt. Since then I only clean and lightly grease or spray with chain oil both ends with no issues.
I have replaced a pull throttle cable which broke, but that was due to the well known sharp edge inside the housing cutting into the barrel and cable. I have never lubricated the throttle cables.
 to you for putting this together, well done and I am sure it will be a big help to those tinkerers on here
| Experience is something you get just after you needed it
1600,Foran Razorbacks, Meerkat bypass, Dyno tune, real headlight,plenty of chrome,switchblade pegs, Hagon Nitro shocks & Ikon progressive fork springs etc. Scorpion Western Low handlebars. PH adjustable fork caps.
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| Irish | | Chaac | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 28/10/2013 | | Posts | : | 854 | | Location | : | New England, NSW, Australia |
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| | Posted : 01 Sep 2016 - 23:09 Post title : Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Re: Leethal) | | | My clutch cable is fraying at the lever end, about four strands have pulled away. The bloke that makes up the cables at the local Harley shop is on holidays until next Wednesday, so I will be there to greet him next wednesday morning. I will get him to make it 6 inches longer too.
My clutch has been heavy to pull since brand new, I have tried all kinds of things to try to make it run smoother, but to no avail.
When the new one is fitted, I will disect the old one to see what the problem was.
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| edmontonstorm | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/09/2014 | | Posts | : | 1,054 | | Location | : | Alberta, Canada |
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| | Posted : 02 Sep 2016 - 02:24 Post title : Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Re: Irish) | | | i have found that running more slack in the clutch cable seems to ease it off as well as smooths the shifts, i have a good 1/4" play in it.
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| Irish | | Chaac | | | | Reg. Date | : | 28/10/2013 | | Posts | : | 854 | | Location | : | New England, NSW, Australia |
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| | Posted : 02 Sep 2016 - 07:32 Post title : Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Re: edmontonstorm) | | |
edmontonstorm wrote:
i have found that running more slack in the clutch cable seems to ease it off as well as smooths the shifts, i have a good 1/4" play in it. |
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I will give that a try with my new one
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| joey1970 | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 22/10/2013 | | Posts | : | 104 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 02 Sep 2016 - 14:03 Post title : Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Re: edmontonstorm) | | | Irish,
I had the same thing happen. I started noticing a heavy clutch at around 4000 miles. And it felt very rough.. not smooth like it should be. After examining it.. I noticed some fraying. I ordered a new cable and it only took about 30-40 minutes to replace it myself. It's a very easy job. I've since done 10k miles on the new cable and it still feels smooth. I suppose it's possible that some cables are slightly defective?
Anyway.. I'd suggest replacing it sooner than later. I know of several people on this forum and the Rat forum who have been stranded due to a snapped clutch cable.
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| daz | | Zeus | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,705 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 02 Sep 2016 - 16:22 Post title : Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Re: joey1970) | | | This brings up a question i have had forever but never remember to ask....throttle cable adjustment. Manual suggests a certain amount of ply, and of course play is definately a necessity. BUT, why is it i cannot adjust it for any amount of play no matter how little and keep the return cable from having so much slack that it doesn't lay against the groove but buckles up above it? Maybe thats normal? just seems like it shouldn't be like that and that being that way would stress it. I can adjust it so it lays down but if i do, no play in the throttle. What am i missing?
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| DrMooman | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 09/08/2016 | | Posts | : | 73 | | Location | : | Wales, Wales, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 02 Sep 2016 - 16:52 Post title : Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Re: daz) | | | post a picture and i'll get around to seeing if mine is the same
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| daz | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,705 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 02 Sep 2016 - 21:26 Post title : Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Re: DrMooman) | | | Thanks, but i have a lot of work to do on the bike right now after my rear brake/wheel meltdown and the last thing i feel like doing is twisting one more bolt out than i have to. Too old for this shit....
| 2010 Blue/White Thunderbird, "Brutus". 1700 kit, short tors, gutted cat, UNI filter, filter seal off, custom tune. Brutus in his native habitat: Link
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| Irish | | Chaac | | | | Reg. Date | : | 28/10/2013 | | Posts | : | 854 | | Location | : | New England, NSW, Australia |
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| | Posted : 02 Sep 2016 - 21:47 Post title : Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Re: joey1970) | | |
joey1970 wrote:
Irish,
I had the same thing happen. I started noticing a heavy clutch at around 4000 miles. And it felt very rough.. not smooth like it should be. After examining it.. I noticed some fraying. I ordered a new cable and it only took about 30-40 minutes to replace it myself. It's a very easy job. I've since done 10k miles on the new cable and it still feels smooth. I suppose it's possible that some cables are slightly defective?
Anyway.. I'd suggest replacing it sooner than later. I know of several people on this forum and the Rat forum who have been stranded due to a snapped clutch cable. |
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Yep, the time has come to replace it. Wednesday, when the bloke gets back from his holidays and can make me one.
He is my Triumph mechanic, and the only bloke that is allowed to touch my bike But he bought the harley dealership a couple of years ago, and is in the States at the moment for some harley conference and the release of the Milwaukee eight motor
Hopefully the cable holds up until then
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| DrMooman | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 09/08/2016 | | Posts | : | 73 | | Location | : | Wales, Wales, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 03 Sep 2016 - 13:32 Post title : Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Re: DrMooman) | | | Taking on all the feedback from this site and other's i've added a bit about lubrication of the throttle cables to the site
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Now onto write the clutch guide... why did i start this project I'm wondering?
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| daz | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,705 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 04 Sep 2016 - 21:20 Post title : Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Re: DrMooman) | | | I use dry graphite powder on the throttle cables. Sometimes a bit of wet lube to hold it there.
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| DrMooman | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 09/08/2016 | | Posts | : | 73 | | Location | : | Wales, Wales, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 11 Sep 2016 - 07:39 Post title : Re: Throttle Cable Adjustment (Re: Leethal) | | | I've now added to the throttle guide how to modify the inner housing to get rid of the sharp thread. Someone else had a good guide on here but i put in a bit more detail.
All Thunderbird owners need to make this mod
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