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Gonzo

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Posted : 17 Jul 2010 - 04:04 Post title : Corbin Dual Tour questions. Please help.

Hi folks,

I am in a real need to get some questions answered about the Corbin Dual Tour seat from a forum member that is willing to take photos and do some measurements and give some honest appraisals.

Please PM me if you don't want to be identified or reply to this post.

I would love to order one of these, but Corbin is not great (not terrible, but hit and miss) at answering their emails.

First, here is a photo to help understand what I am after:

From all the posts and the pictures on their site, and from previous experience, they design their seats so that the lower lumbar support is leant back, which to put it bluntly, I don't like. So I want to ask them to add extra foam to that region, but I want to be able to tell them exactly how much in terms of length of the passenger seat.

So, here are the exact questions I need answered:

1) What is the stock length of the passenger seat, from back seam to front seam?
2) What is the stock length of the rider lumbar support, from top seam to bottom crease?
3) What is the stock angle of the lumbar support from the flat of the riders seat? (Not flat in terms of the ground.)
(now the more creative part)
4) Looking at my drawing, and somehow setting up the angle at a little past 90deg. (lets say 100), what would the extra length of seat be, as indicated by the ? on the photo.
(and now for your opinion)
5) Going by their photos, it *seems* as though the passenger seat is angled slightly down towards the rider. Is this the case? If so, at about what angle? (Please measure with nobody on the bike.)
6) Also, does it "flatten out" once you have some weight on the seat(s)? If so does that mean that I should actually get my seat modified so that the lumber is 90 degrees to the rest of the riders seat, since sitting on it 2-up will lean that lumbar angle back some?

I know this is a lot to ask for, and all I can say is I will appreciate it and hope I can be of assistance to you in return in some way. But that's how these forums work, right?

Cheers,
Gonzo

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FTL40

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Posted : 17 Jul 2010 - 17:46 Post title : Re: Corbin Dual Tour questions. Please help. (Re: Gonzo)

i dont have the duel seat but it looks the same as the individual seats. i will post pics with a ruler hopefully tomorrow to try and help you out

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ezrider3

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Posted : 17 Jul 2010 - 18:20 Post title : Re: Corbin Dual Tour questions. Please help. (Re: FTL40)

I can tell you this, the DUAL TOUR seat DOESN'T work with the factory Triumph backrest. The seat is too short.
I just sent mine back. If you look on their web page at the Dual Tour seat and click on notes it now says
"Sorry, the Corbin saddle does not work with the optional Triumph Sissy bar."

I'm exchanging it for the Classic Solo & Pillion seat. Hopefully that will work with this bike. I have made 10 phone calls
to them and have had only one returned!! They might make great seat but their customer service is the worst I have
ever dealt with! Once I get this seat straightened out I'll never deal with Corbin again!

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Posted : 17 Jul 2010 - 22:39 Post title : Re: Corbin Dual Tour questions. Please help. (Re: ezrider3)

i have the classic solo and pillion and the passenger seat is still too short. i flipped the sissybar around but that made it too close. i am going to heat it up and bend it back to make it work for me then have it rechromed over the winter. i know we should not have to do this but we have no options right now and its a small price to keep the miss happy on 300 mile rides

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Posted : 17 Jul 2010 - 22:46 Post title : Re: Corbin Dual Tour questions. Please help. (Re: FTL40)

You do have an option!!! Call Corbin and send it back. I sent mine back and they admitted that it was never tested
with the backrest. They have even posted on the web page that the dual tour doesn't work with the factory back rest.
You MUST call them and raise hell just like I did or they will never fix the problem. When you call, ask for JR. He's the one
that handled my problem and was also the one that said the seat wouldn't work with the factory bar. If you don't complain then they think everything is just fine. There's no way I would modify my bike to accomidated someone's part that was suppopsed to fit!

Post edited by ezrider3 on 18 Jul 2010 - 11:14

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Posted : 18 Jul 2010 - 14:32 Post title : Re: Corbin Dual Tour questions. Please help. (Re: ezrider3)

Here's a follow up to my other post. In talking to JR from Corbin, they are supposed to be getting in a TBIRD with sissy bar
next week so that they can RE-design the seats for our bikes. They are very aware that their original design is wrong! If you have one you should be contacting them!

Don't complain here about the fit of the seat, complain to Corbin. That's the only way this will get fixed.

Post edited by ezrider3 on 18 Jul 2010 - 14:35

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Posted : 18 Jul 2010 - 19:41 Post title : Re: Corbin Dual Tour questions. Please help. (Re: ezrider3)

Link

hope these pics give some better idea, i am only 5'8 and find it really comfortable.

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Posted : 18 Jul 2010 - 20:04 Post title : Re: Corbin Dual Tour questions. Please help. (Re: FTL40)

Yep, the drivers seat is comfortable! But, you reduced the seating area for the passenger by at least 4" by turning
the backrest around along with changing the angle of the backrest to an uncomfortable
position. Like I said, call Corbin and return the seat!!

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Posted : 18 Jul 2010 - 22:04 Post title : Re: Corbin Dual Tour questions. Please help. (Re: ezrider3)

Ezrider,

With all due respect, you have your own thread bleating about your problem. I would appreciate you NOT jumping onto mine which once again you have NOT even bothered to attempt to help!

I replied to your thread, asking for proof or pictures of what you were whining about, yet you provided no pictures at all. So I do wonder as to your motives. Complaining on yours yet no proof when asked. Then jump on my thread and complain again when that is NOT what this thread is about.

I was asking for help - thanks for providing NONE!

Gonzo

PS. Moderators. Please feel free to delete his posts in this thread - and then feel free to delete this reply. I would prefer to keep this thread about what I originally intended.

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Posted : 18 Jul 2010 - 22:11 Post title : Re: Corbin Dual Tour questions. Please help. (Re: FTL40)

FTL40 wrote:

Link

hope these pics give some better idea, i am only 5'8 and find it really comfortable.

Thanks FTL, that is actually helpful. You and I are about the same height and look to be around 190 lbs which is what I am at.

Good pictures of the underside, too. Something no-one else has had the presence of mind to do and/or show to us all. :)

If anyone else has the Dual Tour that could answer my questions, I would appreciate it.

Thanks,
Gonzo

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Posted : 18 Jul 2010 - 22:21 Post title : Re: Corbin Dual Tour questions. Please help. (Re: Gonzo)

Gonzo,
before you need to get sarcastic, use your good eye! I did reply with pictures as you asked!!

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Posted : 18 Jul 2010 - 23:15 Post title : Re: Corbin Dual Tour questions. Please help. (Re: Gonzo)

If I could just jump on the band wagon for a moment.
I never heard of Corbin Seats until this forum and admit I was considering getting one as they look extremely comfortable. But many thanks to FTL40 for the detailed pictures. I now call these seats mudguards or as people in the States would call them, Fenders. You see they are all nice and shiny on top and absolute "crap" underneath. I would be very interested to know the longevity of these seats, because if the workmanship of the underside is any indication I cant see them looking very good for very long!!

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Posted : 19 Jul 2010 - 02:01 Post title : Re: Corbin Dual Tour questions. Please help. (Re: Eddie)

I've had Corbins on my last five bikes and they are great, IMHO. The customer service sucks but the saddle products, themselves, are fine.

I'm currently running the Corbin Solo on both the T-Bird and Valk and love them both. Because of the "Solo", I don't have the length problems on the passenger seat.

And, they do hold up very well. The seat pan is a very thick plastic/fiberglass made in house and while it doesn't look finished (it doesn't need to... it doesn't show), it is very sturdy... never had a problem in the last 15 years or so.

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Posted : 19 Jul 2010 - 02:15 Post title : Re: Corbin Dual Tour questions. Please help. (Re: ataDude)

Cool "Dude" and thanks for the enlightenment. I am actually glad to hear they "go the distance" and while you dont see the underside of the seat, to me its an indication of the rest. I would be asking myself,"What is the quality of the foam used" "Will the top fabric stretch and distort after time" " will the stitching hold" etc, etc.

I suppose thats where forums like this come into their own. An ignorant like me can voice an opinion, and be either vindicated or educated by those with more experience. So, thanks again. Hope I didnt upset anyone.

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Posted : 19 Jul 2010 - 11:46 Post title : Re: Corbin Dual Tour questions. Please help. (Re: Eddie)

i had a corbin on my america for almost 5 years. the seat looked as good as the day i got it 5 years later. i am nothing but happy with the seat and with some tweeks to the sissybar the pillion will also be fine. even with the sissybar forward the lady still says its better then the triumph seat. and i am closer 10 185Ibs lol

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Posted : 19 Jul 2010 - 12:28 Post title : Re: Corbin Dual Tour questions. Please help. (Re: FTL40)

I don't understand??? You would rather modify your bike then to get the correct seat fro Corbin?

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Posted : 19 Jul 2010 - 13:05 Post title : Re: Corbin Dual Tour questions. Please help. (Re: ezrider3)

ezrider3 wrote:

Gonzo,
before you need to get sarcastic, use your good eye! I did reply with pictures as you asked!!

I see you finally did. And I appreciate it.

However, you may notice that my questions still have not been answered in full, and the thread has been diverted to YOUR topic. Please show some consideration in the future.

Gonzo

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Posted : 19 Jul 2010 - 13:13 Post title : Re: Corbin Dual Tour questions. Please help. (Re: Eddie)

Eddie wrote:
because if the workmanship of the underside is any indication I cant see them looking very good for very long!!

Hey Eddie,

As you can already see by other replies, and I will also add to the chorus, that the seats themselves are nothing but first rate quality in terms of materials and workmanship.

I personally have a problem with the default shape they have on their seats for cruisers (they assume we are all apes, or have time/money to burn on dicking around with our handlebars), and their customer service has a lot left to be desired.

BUT, anyone that has owned a Corbin seat cannot fault the quality of them. I've still have TWO seats from my previous bike that are over 10 years old and I swear they are as comfortable and look as good as the first day I put them on. And that is with next to ZERO maintenance of it, coz I'm a slack prick! :)

Gonzo

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Posted : 19 Jul 2010 - 13:17 Post title : Re: Corbin Dual Tour questions. Please help. (Re: Gonzo)

Hi Folks,

Just reiterating since my original questions seem to have been lost in the angry haze. :)

1) What is the length of the Corbin passenger seat, from back seam to front seam?
2) What is the length of the Corbin rider lumbar support, from top seam to bottom crease?
3) What is the angle of the Corbin lumbar support from the flat of the riders seat? (Not flat in terms of the ground.)
(now the more creative part)
4) Looking at my drawing, and somehow setting up the angle at a little past 90deg. (lets say 100), what would the extra length of passenger seat be, as indicated by the ? on the photo.
(and now for your opinion)
5) Going by Corbin's photos, it *seems* as though the passenger seat is angled slightly down towards the rider. Is this the case? If so, at about what angle? (Please measure with nobody on the bike.)
6) Also, does it "flatten out" once you have some weight on the seat(s)? If so does that mean that I should actually get my seat modified so that the lumber is 90 degrees to the rest of the riders seat, since sitting on it 2-up will lean that lumbar angle back some?

I know this is a lot to ask for, and all I can say is I will appreciate it and hope I can be of assistance to you in return in some way. But that's how these forums work, right?

Cheers,
Gonzo

Post edited by Gonzo on 19 Jul 2010 - 13:19

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Posted : 19 Jul 2010 - 18:37 Post title : Re: Corbin Dual Tour questions. Please help. (Re: ezrider3)

this is currently the only option from corbin, unless you know something i dont. and i dont see a big deal in odifying my bike to make it work for ME. it will only add something different that nobody else has which is good for me. tyo each there own, i totally get where you are coming from and i am pissed about the seat but its not the end of the world and i have no issues making things work for my best interest.

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Posted : 08 Aug 2010 - 12:28 Post title : Re: Corbin Dual Tour questions. Please help. (Re: Gonzo)

Hi Folks,

Just reiterating since my original questions seem to have been lost in the angry haze. :)

Cheers,
Gonzo

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Posted : 08 Aug 2010 - 14:46 Post title : Re: Corbin Dual Tour questions. Please help. (Re: Gonzo)

From my ideas collection, a custom seat, "like a Mustang seat", with an upright backrest. I've tried to track down more info on how he did it. I know nothing about "how." I suppose a piece of plywood?

On the corbin pic, it looks like there is a scallop, barely visible for the passenger. It does appear that the passenger would slide into the rider, from the angle, but probably not. My stock seat has this bridging of the vinyl that hides the scoop out shape.

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Posted : 08 Aug 2010 - 16:43 Post title : Re: Corbin Dual Tour questions. Please help. (Re: DizzE)

DizzE wrote:

From my ideas collection, a custom seat, "like a Mustang seat", with an upright backrest. I've tried to track down more info on how he did it. I know nothing about "how." I suppose a piece of plywood?

On the corbin pic, it looks like there is a scallop, barely visible for the passenger. It does appear that the passenger would slide into the rider, from the angle, but probably not. My stock seat has this bridging of the vinyl that hides the scoop out shape.

That's my bike. I took the foam from the Mustang seat for my Victory and had it installed on the stock T-Bird base. The cover is custom. Fair amount of time involved. Cost me $535. The original Mustang seat was $225. Mustang currently has no plans to make a seat for the T-Bird.

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Posted : 08 Aug 2010 - 19:03 Post title : Re: Corbin Dual Tour questions. Please help. (Re: TraderVic)

Oh, I found it on that exhaust in stainless site, and you're wearing those as well. First off...Very Nice!

Still pondering mufflers, but that seat! How does it build up in the back and what is the structure for support of the angle? Or is that the foam?

- get Mustang Victory foam (which particularly?)
- stock seat (have that)

So, you "just" get somebody to mate the two pieces, + quite a bit involved, and $$? OK, I'm with you so far. Any more hints, pics, comfort reports, problems, size/weight rider stats, miles sat, etc? I see you are also sitting on woolen comfort. How's that?

It looks like a project to work with the seat baffle removal.

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Posted : 09 Aug 2010 - 02:06 Post title : Re: Corbin Dual Tour questions. Please help. (Re: Gonzo)

Gonzo wrote:

Ezrider,

With all due respect, you have your own thread bleating about your problem. I would appreciate you NOT jumping onto mine which once again you have NOT even bothered to attempt to help!

I replied to your thread, asking for proof or pictures of what you were whining about, yet you provided no pictures at all. So I do wonder as to your motives. Complaining on yours yet no proof when asked. Then jump on my thread and complain again when that is NOT what this thread is about.

I was asking for help - thanks for providing NONE!

Gonzo

PS. Moderators. Please feel free to delete his posts in this thread - and then feel free to delete this reply. I would prefer to keep this thread about what I originally intended.

This forum is usually so civil, it's surprising to find something like this. This looks more like something coming out of the old Eastern Europe than Australia. Did you make reference to "whining?" I apologize for throwing another distraction into your private thread but, isn't this supposed to be a friendly kind of thing?

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Posted : 09 Aug 2010 - 03:32 Post title : Re: Corbin Dual Tour questions. Please help. (Re: feduke)

Old news, Feduke.

I just (still) want someone to help me out... And still the thread gets derailed. *sigh*

Gonzo

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Posted : 09 Aug 2010 - 05:00 Post title : Re: Corbin Dual Tour questions. Please help. (Re: Gonzo)

Yeah, the Corbin passenger seat details....woops. I got carried away with the custom Mustang seat idea, sorry.

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Posted : 09 Aug 2010 - 14:27 Post title : Re: Corbin Dual Tour questions. Please help. (Re: DizzE)

DizzE wrote:

Oh, I found it on that exhaust in stainless site, and you're wearing those as well. First off...Very Nice!

Still pondering mufflers, but that seat! How does it build up in the back and what is the structure for support of the angle? Or is that the foam?

- get Mustang Victory foam (which particularly?)
- stock seat (have that)

So, you "just" get somebody to mate the two pieces, + quite a bit involved, and $$? OK, I'm with you so far. Any more hints, pics, comfort reports, problems, size/weight rider stats, miles sat, etc? I see you are also sitting on woolen comfort. How's that?

It looks like a project to work with the seat baffle removal.

It's all the foam. It's thick enough in that area to provide plenty of support and still offer a little "give".

It's from a 2000 Victory v92c.

I've had it on for about 500 miles. It's not perfect, but it's better than stock and LongHaul for me. could be a little cushier. I'm 5'10" ,195 lbs.

I like the wool cover, especially when it's hot. It's from Alaska Leather. They are very good people to deal with.

Yes, you can unscrew the backside screws from the air intake when you have the cover and foam off.

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Posted : 09 Aug 2010 - 22:54 Post title : Re: Corbin Dual Tour questions. Please help. (Re: Gonzo)

Gonzo wrote:

And still the thread gets derailed. *sigh*

Gonzo

i wonder if corbin use the same thread as triumph. anyone know?