| General -> Accessories. | Tow bar / trailer hitch - Looking for Swingarm saddle... | | | | Categories : |
|  | Topic : Question: Why does Triumph want their saddlebags to swing out side-to-side? |  |
| | | MotorMac | | Jupiter |  |  | | Reg. Date | : | 29/08/2010 | | Posts | : | 1,850 | | Location | : | Nor Cal, United States |
|
| | Posted : 29 Feb 2016 - 00:46 Post title : Question: Why does Triumph want their saddlebags to swing out side-to-side? | | | The T-Bird factory bag mounts do it, the Tiger bag mounts do it, I'm guessing all Triumph bag mounts do it. The bags hang from a hinge that allows a limited amount of motion away from the bike - to what purpose? Never seen this anywhere else. On a turn, the outer bag will be pressed against bike's frame, but inside bag can move away from the bike. Not much, maybe 1.5-inches or so, but even if the bag weighed 100 lbs. I can't see why that would be necessary. Or desirable. Anybody have a reasonable explanation? There has to be one...
| 
|
|
| | | davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
|
| | Posted : 29 Feb 2016 - 04:02 Post title : Re: Question: Why does Triumph want their saddlebags to swing out side-to-side? (Re: MotorMac) | | | I own a 2010 Tbird SE [bought new in 2010]which comes standard with Triumph's factory bags,[poor quality at best and NOT water tight] so I know what you're talking about.The only explanation I can offer, is on the inner sides of both bags,there is a bracket bolted onto the plastic bag support which has an adjustable rod,bolt,whatever,which is used to push and hold the bags straight against another bracket made on the bags' mounts,to keep em straight when they have weight or cargo in them.Naturally,as the weight increases,the more the bags will move inward [sag] and contact the tops of the mufflers which will wear and or burn holes in the bottoms of em.With the hinges and that adjustment mechanism, the bags can be moved/adjusted outwards to keep em straight so they do NOT come in contact with the tops of the mufflers.Hence if you decrease the weight ,you would also decrease the adjustment so the bags will drop back and be straight again. Since I carry pretty much the same cargo in mine,I just leave em in the position I set em at to keep em straight.If ya remove the bags from the brackets [four screws on the inside of each bag]you should be able to see what I'm talking about and figure out how they adjust!!  Dave!!!
|
|
| | | MotorMac | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 29/08/2010 | | Posts | : | 1,850 | | Location | : | Nor Cal, United States |
|
| | Posted : 29 Feb 2016 - 17:27 Post title : Re: Question: Why does Triumph want their saddlebags to swing out side-to-side? (Re: davetac1) | | | Question came back up due to a good friend who has been doing battle with his ($1000US+) factory Tiger bags. These are completely different than our bags, but still hang from a hinge and use a tubular mounting frame. The moulded plastic bags have slots cast into their forward edges near the bottom of each bag, with a steel tab from mounting frame acting as a stop when they swing in/out.
The constant action has caused his mount to break in the past, so he's been using a variety of materials - rubber, leather - to try and prevent the bags from swinging. He left here yesterday to go make some Delrin blocks to stuff into those slots.
I'm using Easy Brackets - that I had to completely redesign - that hang from spindles mounted to bike's frame, as most cruiser bags do. There's no hinge, no accommodation for side-to-side motion, so the question remains: Why the hinges??
|
|
|
| | | Stretchman | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 15/01/2016 | | Posts | : | 147 | | Location | : | Dania Beach, Florida, United States |
|
| | Posted : 01 Mar 2016 - 05:06 Post title : Re: Question: Why does Triumph want their saddlebags to swing out side-to-side? (Re: MotorMac) | | |
MotorMac wrote:
I'm using Easy Brackets - that I had to completely redesign - that hang from spindles mounted to bike's frame, as most cruiser bags do. There's no hinge, no accommodation for side-to-side motion, so the question remains: Why the hinges?? |
|
According to Triumph, those hinges allow the bags to shift slightly in corners which actually keeps the bike more stable, and prevents oscillation.
|
|
| | | MotorMac | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 29/08/2010 | | Posts | : | 1,850 | | Location | : | Nor Cal, United States |
|
| | Posted : 01 Mar 2016 - 17:04 Post title : Re: Question: Why does Triumph want their saddlebags to swing out side-to-side? (Re: Stretchman) | | | I don't suppose you could point me to the source of this theory, could you? Haven't found any mention of this anywhere...
Thanks! My friend will never believe it, but there has to be a reason.
|
|
|
| | | ufothunderbird | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 18/02/2012 | | Posts | : | 220 | | Location | : | TBirdHills, NSW, Australia |
|
| | Posted : 02 Mar 2016 - 12:03 Post title : Re: Question: Why does Triumph want their saddlebags to swing out side-to-side? (Re: MotorMac) | | |
Designed by a madman - all that crap that comes with those mounts - I removed and welded the bottom of the two hinges together and threw out the rubber mounts and bolts and spacers and crap that comes with it ! Dramatic weight loss . To gain access to the mounting bolts I drilled out the outer plate - much better
| :
|
|
|
| |
| |
|