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| | | bschwartz | | Set |  |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/03/2014 | | Posts | : | 336 | | Location | : | Madison, Wisconsin, United States |
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| | Posted : 10 Jul 2015 - 00:43 Post title : Yet another Mustang seat review - from a 6' 3" guy | | | So I just got a Mustang seat second hand from a member here on the forum and tonight was my first chance to take it for a spin. Got about an hour's ride in so here's my first impressions. But a little background on my seat journey first. When I bought my Storm used it had the Triumph one piece long haul seat on it. It was a comfortable seat but I like the solo look so I ordered a two piece Triumph long haul seat. First thing I did after trying it a few times was send it down to Spencer in Florida to tweak it and he did a heck of a job with it. I kept the one piece seat figuring that some day I might want to get the backrest for it and give that a shot but that never happened (so if anyone is looking for a good deal on Triumph one piece long haul just drop me a line). Spencer put much more of an L shape on the seat and upgraded the padding a lot over the standard long haul. I rode with that for a year and a half but I always wanted to try the Mustang as I heard so many good things about them and I was getting a little sore with the long haul after a few hours. When the deal came up on the used seat I grabbed it. I was a little worried about what I had read about the seat pushing you forward. At 6' 3" with boards on the bike I didn't want to be any more cramped than I already am. Here's what I found tonight:
- I wasn't pushed forward any noticeable amount at all. Felt like the exact same position to me. What I did notice is that the back of the seat is much firmer on the Mustang so it doesn't compress as much as the long haul.
- That firmer back of the seat makes you sit upright much more without any fatigue at all. I noticed right away that I was sitting much more vertically and slouching forward less. There's been a lot of posts lately about backrests and this seat doesn't have a spot for a backrest but I've ridden friend's bikes before that have backrests and I just don't find them comfortable. Maybe someday but right now this seat gives me the upright position I'm looking for with just the firm back.
- You do sit lower in the Mustang than the long haul. That was really obvious to me as the angle of my knees was different than I was used to. They were pushed just a little higher than on the long haul. It wasn't uncomfortable but I did notice that I was pushing my feet forward a bit more on the boards to get my knees down a bit. This was the most noticeable change between the two seats other than the firmer back. It wasn't that my whole position was pushed forward by the seat just that the angle of my knees was higher from sitting lower therefore causing me to push my feet forward more.
- It breathes so much better than the long haul. Let's just say "the boys" get a lot more air on this seat and you seem to sit more on the sit bones in butt and it kind of raises you up a bit where it counts. Very comfortable.
- The Mustang cushions the bumps.....a lot. There is definitely a noticeable difference. The long haul is a nice seat for sure but the Mustang does provided a softer ride.
Really happy with the seat after the first ride. So tall(er) guys don't be afraid to give it a shot based on the notion that it pushes you forward. If you're looking for a comfortable seat I can say that Mustang has given me a very good first impression. I won't diss the long haul as it gave me many comfortable miles but the Mustang does go that little bit further.
So I guess I haven't covered too much ground that hasn't been covered before but I thought I'd throw my impressions out there for others who are considering the upgrade.
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| | | satch1961 | | Chaac | | | Reg. Date | : | 27/09/2013 | | Posts | : | 583 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 10 Jul 2015 - 02:01 Post title : Re: Yet another Mustang seat review - from a 6' 3" guy (Re: bschwartz) | | | Bob, curious about the dual longhaul you wanna part with. How $?
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| | | bschwartz | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/03/2014 | | Posts | : | 336 | | Location | : | Madison, Wisconsin, United States |
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| | Posted : 10 Jul 2015 - 02:10 Post title : Re: Yet another Mustang seat review - from a 6' 3" guy (Re: satch1961) | |
| | | caprock | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 06/07/2015 | | Posts | : | 154 | | Location | : | Texas, United States |
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| | Posted : 10 Jul 2015 - 05:24 Post title : Re: Yet another Mustang seat review - from a 6' 3" guy (Re: bschwartz) | | | You're review could not have been any better (at least for me). I too am 6'3" and do not want to give up much leg room for seat comfort. I was one of those that believed the Mustang would force the rider to sacrifice leg room. By the pictures I have seen, I thought that I would be giving up a couple of inches.
My seat is a stock solo seat and it's not too bad for me, but on longer rides I could use something better. Spencer has also rebuilt a couple of seats for other bikes of mine in the past and has done a wonderful job. As a matter of fact, I had been considering just purchasing another used stock or possibly a lLH solo seat and having Spencer perform his magic (I don't want to lose any riding time with sending my seat to Spencer for rework). But, part of me has been thinking about buying a Mustang seat. You may have made my decision easier. The only concernable statement is when you mentioned that you sit lower than you did on the modified LH seat. I wonder if this would be the case with the stock seat vs. the Mustang seat?
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| | | bschwartz | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/03/2014 | | Posts | : | 336 | | Location | : | Madison, Wisconsin, United States |
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| | Posted : 10 Jul 2015 - 11:03 Post title : Re: Yet another Mustang seat review - from a 6' 3" guy (Re: caprock) | | | I never had the stock seat so I can't compare that height versus the Long haul or the Mustang. I can tell you that there is a noticeable difference in height between the Mustang and my Spencer modified seat. It's not night and day but I did notice right away that my knees were at a bit of a different angle. It was all very manageable it just felt different. But the added comfort made the adjustment worthwhile. My Spencer seat is still a great seat and I'm hanging on to that one as a backup seat but the Mustang is just a bit firmer in back and shaped a little better for me personally. I've heard the stock seat is pretty rough so either a Long haul or a Mustang will be a step up for you from that. By the way while we're both 6' 3" I usually wear a 34/35 in pants. Some people have longer torsos or legs so having that bit of information may help you as well. Oh and as I mentioned above I ride with floorboards (it's what came on my bike) instead of pegs so there's a difference there too. Pegs would stretch you out a bit more. Personally I love the boards so I'm sticking with them but just trying to give you all the info to help make a decision.
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| | | caprock | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/07/2015 | | Posts | : | 154 | | Location | : | Texas, United States |
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| | Posted : 10 Jul 2015 - 18:43 Post title : Re: Yet another Mustang seat review - from a 6' 3" guy (Re: bschwartz) | | | Once again thank you for some very informative information. We have similar builds. I may have an additional 1" in leg length. I purchased my TB used a couple of months ago. Mine came with pegs which aren't bad. However, I am in the process of switching to floorboards to permit some movement for my feet and legs which I have found to be very helpful on long rides. As you mentioned, I will lose some stretch with this change, but I think the positives will outweigh the negatives.
I don't know if I am willing to take a chance on buying a new Mustang seat. Although, if I can find a good used one, I may give it a try. It appears that they pop up on these forums occasionally.
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| | | bschwartz | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/03/2014 | | Posts | : | 336 | | Location | : | Madison, Wisconsin, United States |
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| | Posted : 10 Jul 2015 - 19:26 Post title : Re: Yet another Mustang seat review - from a 6' 3" guy (Re: caprock) | | | Yep, that's exactly what I did. My Spencer seat was great but when I found a great deal on a used Mustang I had to take a chance at it. Very happy I did. Keep your eyes open. They turn up every now and again. I wouldn't pay full price for the Mustang over my Spencer modified seat but the discounted price I paid was well worth it.
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| | | vito | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 18/04/2014 | | Posts | : | 97 | | Location | : | Rockford, Illinois, United States |
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| | Posted : 10 Sep 2015 - 15:34 Post title : Re: Yet another Mustang seat review - from a 6' 3" guy (Re: bschwartz) | | | I was reading this thread because I was thinking about a Mustang seat. I have the longhaul one piece seat, with an Airhawk 2 cushion on it, and most of the time I am fine. But on a long ride, say more than 3 hours, especially on a hot day, my butt is burning. It seems most riders find the Mustang a big improvement, but I am thinking long and hard before sending them the $509 for a new seat. I am assuming that if I do get the Mustang, I can stop using the Airhawk cushions that I now use for both myself and my passenger.
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| | | bschwartz | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/03/2014 | | Posts | : | 336 | | Location | : | Madison, Wisconsin, United States |
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| | Posted : 10 Sep 2015 - 15:58 Post title : Re: Yet another Mustang seat review - from a 6' 3" guy (Re: vito) | | | You can find the Mustang a bit cheaper from dealers on eBay but I understand that there is definitely a little sticker shock on these. I was glad to be able to pick mine up second hand. Also, if you think you will ever want a backrest think about that now as you can't retrofit a Mustang backrest unless you order the backrest ready seat the first time around. The passenger seat between the backrest ready and non backrest seats are different so it would be an expensive mistake to make at this point. I can tell you that I do love my Mustang seat. It is very comfortable but definitely does fit differently than the long haul seat so there will be a bit of adjusting time for you. I'm not that far away from you Vito so if you plan on doing the Team Triumph outing in New Glarus next weekend let me know and I'll see if I can swing down there and let you see the seat first hand. Or if there's a time when you'll be at Team Triumph in Janesville give me a heads up and I'll see if I can meet you there.
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| | | edmontonstorm | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/09/2014 | | Posts | : | 1,054 | | Location | : | Alberta, Canada |
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| | Posted : 10 Sep 2015 - 19:35 Post title : Re: Yet another Mustang seat review - from a 6' 3" guy (Re: vito) | | |
vito wrote:
I was reading this thread because I was thinking about a Mustang seat. I have the longhaul one piece seat, with an Airhawk 2 cushion on it, and most of the time I am fine. But on a long ride, say more than 3 hours, especially on a hot day, my butt is burning. It seems most riders find the Mustang a big improvement, but I am thinking long and hard before sending them the $509 for a new seat. I am assuming that if I do get the Mustang, I can stop using the Airhawk cushions that I now use for both myself and my passenger. |
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How tall are you? Inseam length? do you have factory t-bird bars or drag bars?
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| | | RC65 | | Chaac | | | Reg. Date | : | 19/05/2011 | | Posts | : | 679 | | Location | : | Redmond, Washington, United States |
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| | Posted : 10 Sep 2015 - 23:02 Post title : Re: Yet another Mustang seat review - from a 6' 3" guy (Re: bschwartz) | | | bschwartz wrote:
I was a little worried about what I had read about the seat pushing you forward. At 6' 3" with boards on the bike I didn't want to be any more cramped than I already am. Here's what I found tonight:
- I wasn't pushed forward any noticeable amount at all. Felt like the exact same position to me. . . . So tall(er) guys don't be afraid to give it a shot based on the notion that it pushes you forward. |
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Great review and I agree w/ all that was written, save for the above. In the interest of offering a differing experience to interested buyers, I have found that the Mustang, in fact, does push you forward...perhaps an inch or so. With the stock and longhaul (of which I've used both) and distance between crotch and end of tank is about three inches, perhaps a bit more, for me. With the Mustang, that distance has shrunk to about two inches...it's noticeably, visually shorter. My legs are slightly more folded, and the way in which my feet rest on the pegs is different...more angled for the longhaul because the distance is longer, and more perpendicular with the Mustang since my legs are closer. Again, the difference is noticeable. This is my third Mustang seat, and, in fact, my second for this bike (first was substituted for one w/ a backrest), and in all three instances I have been moved forward.
I don't know how to explain how two different riders can have conflicting experiences, but taller riders should be aware that your experience may reflect either mine or the OP's. Keep in mind how you sit in the longhaul (or stock) can have a bearing, since if you tend to sit forward on its incline then I suppose there's not going to be much difference. If, however, you're over six feet (I'm 6'1" w/ 34" inseam) and tend to sit back on that same incline, then the fixed, L-shaped design of the Mustang will inevitably move you forward.
All that said, it's not an uncomfortable push forward...in fact, because you also sink just a tad lower w/ the Mustang, the combination of the two make you nearly feel more "as one" with the bike and cornering feels far more natural than the more longer, stretched out stance w/ the longhaul. And let's face it, an inch or inch-and-a-half isn't an unreasonable difference unless you're pushing a height, like 6'6", that makes the TBird ergonomics already a challenge.
Anyhow: my two cents.
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| | | bschwartz | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/03/2014 | | Posts | : | 336 | | Location | : | Madison, Wisconsin, United States |
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| | Posted : 10 Sep 2015 - 23:42 Post title : Re: Yet another Mustang seat review - from a 6' 3" guy (Re: RC65) | | | I'm wondering if floorboards vs pegs makes a difference. I have a 35" inseam and floorboards and I push all the way back against the seat which is why I immediately noticed that the Mustang makes you sit up much straighter than the longhaul. I've tried the dual longhaul and the two piece longhaul and the Spencer modified two piece longhaul. I noticed a seating position change in that I'm more upright now but I didn't notice losing any room to the tank. However I also didn't get out a measuring tape to see if there was a difference or not. So maybe it's the difference between pegs and boards but as our two stories show, your mileage may vary. Either way it's a great seat and I'm very happy with it.
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