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 jezza1983 
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Posted : 01 Jul 2015 - 08:34   Post title : Load Equalizer versus Signal Stabilizer
 
Sorry if this has come up - can't find much info on it and my dealer doesn't seem to have a firm grasp of what is involved.

I have a 2014 Thunderbird Storm and am adding Rivco mirrors (that have integrated LED front facing running lights that also function as front facing indicators and on the mirror side has rear facing LED indicators. These are different bulbs as the front are amber and the rear are red.

I'm also swapping the stock front and rear indicators for LED bulbs.

My question is that as I will effectively now have 8 turn signal LED's, would anyone recommend to use Load Stabilizers or has anyone tried the Custom Dynamics Signal Stabilizers? The Signal Stabilizers apparently give off no heat and as far as I can tell just adjust the flash rate so seem like the better option and also hopefully will avoid any alarm issues.

However it says that it:

'Fits all Metrics with Thermal or Electronic Flasher (except CAN BUS)'

This is pretty beyond my grasp of electronics, so can anyone tell me if based on the above sentence this would fit OK? There are no plugs on the unit, just wires, so it should be able to be spliced in with no fitment issues.


Thanks!



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 rayglo 
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Posted : 01 Jul 2015 - 12:32   Post title : Re: Load Equalizer versus Signal Stabilizer (Re: jezza1983)
 
I put LEDS front and back on my bike and did not want to use resistors. so I bought a physical flasher and spliced it in speedo {LGB wire} harness only to find that I lost my self cancel feature. so out it came and I installed 1 dual band load equalizer and I am back to normal. as far as heat I don't worry because the blinkers aren't on that long. the running light would not need a resistor. I know that you cant mess with the solid state flasher. but I do not claim to know that much, but that was my experience, I am not sure where you would splice the signal stabilizer but if it is from the plug underneath the speedo {LGB wire} I would say don't do it hopefully someone else can come to the rescue.

that bike to the left looks like the phantom one in Bennington, Jamie

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Posted : 01 Jul 2015 - 13:16   Post title : Re: Load Equalizer versus Signal Stabilizer (Re: rayglo)
 
Thanks for the info. Yeah I had thought I could just use load equalizers as you said the blinkers aren't on for long, just not sure if it would be an issue as the Rivco mirrors have a running light with integrated turn signal, so not sure if the load equalizer would be activated only on turn signal, or also when the light was in fulltime 'running mode' as it's the same bulb...



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 rayglo 
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Posted : 01 Jul 2015 - 15:19   Post title : Re: Load Equalizer versus Signal Stabilizer (Re: rayglo)
 
I see your prob. I use 1 dual band equalizer for all 4 blinkers. you think its possible to use a separate power source for the running lights?
if you can you can get it from the position bulb in the bucket

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Posted : 01 Jul 2015 - 15:24   Post title : Re: Load Equalizer versus Signal Stabilizer (Re: rayglo)
 
just went too the web site, and maybe not. you could kind of hang the equalizer out the back of the bucket. if not and there is no device for this I guess you will get use to the neurotic flash rate. who knows 8 LEDS could create some resistance. and I guess the blinker and running light work in tandom, so yeah the LE would be on all the time. but if could separate the
two and have separate running and blinkers and your kool with it. then no worries

~ray

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Posted : 01 Jul 2015 - 16:27   Post title : Re: Load Equalizer versus Signal Stabilizer (Re: rayglo)
 
So I heard back from Custom Dynamics (they seem to answer emails quickly and very thoroughly which is good)

They said:

You are determining if the bike is Can Bus for either part. If it is Can Bus you do not need a Signal Stabilizer or a load equalizer. The mirror lights are considered "add-on's" to the turn signal system and have such a low current draw that they don't really make a difference either way. They will not need their own equalizer. What you need to be concerned with are the turn signal housings. One Signal Stabilizer will cover front and rear turn signal housings and any add-on's. If you choose load equalizers, you will need one for the front of the bike and one for the rear, the 2 together should carry front and rear turn signals and any add ons. You will not be putting any sort of load adjustment on the mirrors so none of those wires will be run through the equalizer or stabilizer.


The Rivco mirror website installation says

Connect the Black wires to ground. Connect the Yellow wires to the left & right turn
signals. Connect the Red wire to the running lights. If your bike does not have running lights you
may connect the Red wires to any wire that has power when the ignition is turned on.

So I'm thinking maybe I can hook up 1 signal stabilizer that will take care of the 8 turn signals and then also run the red wire onto a power wire (and bypass the signal stabilizer). Then I'd assume/hope that when the turn signal is activated, it would override the running light feature and run through the signal stabilizer and flash in time.

So I've also found out it is not CAN BUS

Post edited by jezza1983 on 01 Jul 2015 - 17:11